Disappointed in Youkai Watch

[Welsper59]

Title implied i could talk about what bothered me with the event, my bad i did not realjze this was an immersion break thread.

That went right out the door when people realized some folks couldn't accept the fact that, ever since the Lightning event, the "alternate dimensions" excuse for promotional content opened Pandora's Box (for lore/immersion). If someone is concerned about immersion, that means they're of the RP mind. That doesn't mean they RP, just that they are of a similar mind for enjoyment. As someone of the RP mind, if they can't use their imagination a little to accept an already explained occurrence within the games world, they're not exactly a shining example of there objectively being a problem with immersion. At least within this game, they're not... since you RP/immerse within the official content and lore.

[Vidu]

While that may be true, for later in the week... on a Tuesday, after reset, queue times for Weeping City are generally a 5 minute max waiting period. Granted it did give me time to finish off the daily beastmen quests, I'm one who prefers to get the weekly lock content done as soon as possible so as not to forget and then run the risk of missing out on a drop. Selfish I know, but that's just the way I am.

I didn't say the event was specifically to blame here either, but it's easy to connect the dots to see where the majority of people are : FATE grinding for RNG content. I don't mind what people do, I really don't. I just get frustrated when I can't get something done during my set routine online is all.

Well, glad you said it yourself so I dont have to point it out: Yes, that is a very selfish attitude and not a good ground to complain about "new" content being added... and with all due respect - getting frustrated because there is an "error" in your daily online routine is YOUR problem and shouldnt SE prevent from releasing new content for the game (I consider the minions/weapons new content - even if they make us do old content for them). The reason I mention this is that the "logical" conclusion for the negative feedback on this event ("We dont want this!!!") would be not to do anything like it again. And now you may say "But thats what I want!" - but hold on! You really dont want events anymore? What else do you not want anymore? Maybe its just me but I feel the game would lose so much if they'd listen to people being all like "I dont want that. And I dont want this either. Or that."

So maybe a change of attitude on your side and a bit of loosing up would be more in order than telling SE not to throw in events anymore

[Arielyanna]

Well, glad you said it yourself so I dont have to point it out: Yes, that is a very selfish attitude and not a good ground to complain about "new" content being added... and with all due respect - getting frustrated because there is an "error" in your daily online routine is YOUR problem and shouldnt SE prevent from releasing new content for the game (I consider the minions/weapons new content - even if they make us do old content for them). The reason I mention this is that the "logical" conclusion for the negative feedback on this event ("We dont want this!!!") would be not to do anything like it again. And now you may say "But thats what I want!" - but hold on! You really dont want events anymore? What else do you not want anymore? Maybe its just me but I feel the game would lose so much if they'd listen to people being all like "I dont want that. And I dont want this either. Or that."

So maybe a change of attitude on your side and a bit of loosing up would be more in order than telling SE not to throw in events anymore

[begin rant]
So being selfish in wanting to get something done is wrong? Where the Hell did I state, in any of my posts in this thread, that this event is terrible and for SE to stop doing them? Don't imply that I said that 'between the lines' either because I didn't. Honestly I don't even care about this event... I'm not for nor against it! You automatically see someone post their opinion and stance, then jump on them like a starving dog to a bone. Forgive me for having a set routine in place for when I play FFXIV. Forgive me for wanting to get things done. Forgive me for not jumping on the bandwagon and doing everything everyone else is doing because it's great.
[end rant]

Seriously though... I don't care about the events. At all. They may be fun and all, but I'm not fussed about them period. If other people like them, go for it and have fun. Just don't criticize those who either A: Don't like them or B: Just don't care good or bad regarding them. You made a baseless assumption that I was criticizing SE and the Event when I wasn't. If someone has their own personal agenda they want to complete in any game, then that is their prerogative and who are you to judge them for it? We all pay for our accounts and play how we want. If we want to do solo content, by all means. Want to do group stuff, go ahead. Jump headfirst into every event SE puts in, be my guest. However... you must at least acknowledge that not all players are of the same mindset as you and attack everything SE does. We all play differently than others. As I said before, I'm one who plays to a set routine... that's just who I am. A friend of mine, just does whatever they want regardless. You shouldn't criticize others for playing how they do if it does in no way affect you directly or indirectly. Otherwise, you're just as bad as everyone else attacking others just to feel good about themselves.

[Powe]

I love when the immersion is broken, that's why I have my character worship a character that isn't really in the XIV universe, I have him sacrifice crystals to try maker a primal out of her( It's Lightning btw, I LOVE HER!!!!!)

[Welsper59]

I love when the immersion is broken, that's why I have my character worship a character that isn't really in the XIV universe, I have him sacrifice crystals to try maker a primal out of her( It's Lightning btw, I LOVE HER!!!!!)

Too bad we don't have something like the mannequins in XI. Furniture items that are modeled after the races (both sexes avail), have a selection of poses, and that you can equip anything to, regardless of it not being possible elsewhere (e.g. Equipping a sword and board to a mannequin wearing BLM AF head (died) and WHM AF body. Given the capabilities of this game, it'd be nice if you could take it a bit further and maybe add hair/color options... I'd guess that would help you erect a shrine.

[Nestama]

That went right out the door when people realized some folks couldn't accept the fact that, ever since the Lightning event, the "alternate dimensions" excuse for promotional content opened Pandora's Box (for lore/immersion).

Except they all, to some extent, made sense (for both games). Shantotto learned how to travel dimensions thanks to a spell she accidentally learned in FFXI, at the very beginning of 'A Shantotto Ascension.' Dragon Quest X was mostly a reference, using XIV races for a monster (for ze puff puff), leaving golems being the only thing from the DQ franchise. Iroha is a questionable one, as it's unclear on just when she leaves XI to enter XIV (and it makes less sense the more I think on it). Lightning is also a questionable one... was she thrown into Eorzea by Etro? Bhunivelze? or was it all a 'dream' to her? (the event takes place between XIII-2 and Lightning Returns, when she was crystallised).

What is the story with the Yokai? How'd something that isn't even from a SE game/franchise wind up in Eorzea (I don't plan on doing the event since it's just Atma farm 3.35. I've done enough of that already)?

[Welsper59]

Except they all, to some extent, made sense (for both games). Shantotto learned how to travel dimensions thanks to a spell she accidentally learned in FFXI, at the very beginning of 'A Shantotto Ascension.' Dragon Quest X was mostly a reference, using XIV races for a monster (for ze puff puff), leaving golems being the only thing from the DQ franchise. Iroha is a questionable one, as it's unclear on just when she leaves XI to enter XIV (and it makes less sense the more I think on it). Lightning is also a questionable one... was she thrown into Eorzea by Etro? Bhunivelze? or was it all a 'dream' to her? (the event takes place between XIII-2 and Lightning Returns, when she was crystallised).

What is the story with the Yokai? How'd something that isn't even from a SE game/franchise wind up in Eorzea (I don't plan on doing the event since it's just Atma farm 3.35. I've done enough of that already)?

Well that's kind of why immersion and, thus, RP does not have to always need straight up explanation. Did we need a specific explanation as to why the Golems were there with the DQ event? Nope. Does it really need to be an SE game or affiliated to them to be able to believe it's a thing? That's an exceptionally high level of bias that defies the concept of immersion within a games world, not the real world.

I haven't started the event yet, but it really doesn't matter with the use of an imagination (the very source that empowers immersion). Hell, I could just throw a reason right off the top of my head that would fit right in given lore history for these things, assuming one is not given. Unusually shaped spirits have begun pouring into Eorzea, so now someone that has been studying dimensional rifts (or maybe just super natural phenomenon) turns to you to find out why they've appeared. To start off immersion or RP, does it really need any more than that? If it does, that's not using your imagination, that's being told exactly what to think to believe.

[Nestama]

I don't roleplay, but I like lore. Most of the cameo events in the past have followed the lore of both games involved (it's why we'll never see Sephiroth, Kefka, etc. They're dead, thus will never appear). Does Yo-Kai Watch do the same? is all I'm asking.

[Aryalandi]

I don't roleplay, but I like lore. Most of the cameo events in the past have followed the lore of both games involved (it's why we'll never see Sephiroth, Kefka, etc. They're dead, thus will never appear). Does Yo-Kai Watch do the same? is all I'm asking.

It seems that in this event the yokai originated or at the least were discovered in doma, the event npc is a male raen au ra, it is fitting considering the fact that "demons/yokai" in several eastern cultures range fron helpful-harmful rather than simply being malicious, they are newly introduced to Eorzea, so overall in short yes there is lore and it fits well enough for a fun side event.

I would likely compare how much it fits to hildi and other such quests however XD I found it sort of amusing that the seedseers freaked over these.. things suddenly appearing in the twelveswood and sealed it in an allag soul jar..

[Cakekizyy]

Spending an hour waiting for a Weeping City run disagrees with you.

Weeping City is not Deep Dungeons.