Can we stop destroying the solo part of this game?

[Vanguard319]

I think these should settle the debate:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lone_wolf_(trait)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loner

I'm sure some groupie will start to whine about how MMOs are about social interaction. Again not true, MMOs may have a social structure, but it is still left to the individual how much they want to interact with others. There will always be people in such games who will, by thier own choosing, choose to play alone, regardless of whether they consider other players a liability, or simply don't socialize much, these are the people you have solo content for; You will always have them in any player population.

[ergoproxy]

Agree with you fully Vanguard. MMO only stands for Massively Multiplayer Online. That means there are people from all over playing at the same huge server/servers as you. And where you have the possibility to interact with them (in different ways), chat, group if you want, play a role, whatever. The origin. On top of that it will fullfill a modern MMO, to not exclude any of the gameplays of party, solo, duo etc. Many people including me have a very busy IRL nowdays, and if SE want their game to last more than a couple of years, of course they MUST include gameplays, not only one forced gameplay.

And btw, solo playing in an MMO does not mean single player gaming, that two different games. But its pretty obvious isnt it? >.<

I havent tried the new patch that much, so i cant really tell what i think about all the changes yet. So far i have problems finding mobs at my level, where to go, exp'ing some.. I do like to party as well as solo playing, but as my life is right now i cant be too bound doing stuff, on a regular basis. As for many others..

It will be very interesting when materia gear etc appears.. And even though the patch changed soloing alot, i still think we have to give it time. Devs probably will change things at least once again for both gamestyles. This game is still a beta.

[Betelgeuzah]

And btw, solo playing in an MMO does not mean single player gaming, that two different games.

Depends on the game.

For example, in WoW (or most MMOs) you do quests by yourself (which can involve various objectives, but mostly fighting), and the quest givers sponsor you with money, equipment, or both. You interact with NPC's to buy and sell stuff, you gather and craft to make items for yourself, and ultimately money only matters on a personal level. That's single player gaming right there.

In this game, you might fight, craft or gather by yourself (but are actually very much encouraged to fight in groups), but the drops you get, the gil you obtain, it doesn't go to NPC's (aside from maybe very early on). You will be required to take part in the economy from the get-go, and you essentially become a part of it. NPC's repair your equipment but that's basically it.

It's ultimately quite niche concept, because not being self-sufficient and needing the help of others is a lot less convenient. It enables the MMO to be a real mini-community instead of a shell where people mind their own business outside instances, but that automatically makes it a niche because it's not so easy to get by in that sort of environment. You can't just expect the NPC's to hand out gear and money because in reality supply and demand dictate everything. New players will have, comparably, harder time than in other MMO's because of this.

If you ask me, though, catering to a niche instead of trying to appeal to everyone in the mainstream umbrella (which is what every MMO does nowadays) is much more healthy in the long run. The game offers something other games do not, with its own pros and cons.

[Pence]

now you can fight a mob equql to you get 200+ xp depending on the mob type. 1.18 you get like 60xp dont see how there killing solo the player game.

As much as I'm against this thread...this is just silly. Fighting a mob equal to you in .18 =/= fighting a mob equal to you in .19.

[Dubont]

can you stop trying to solo in a MMO?

[KitCat]

TBH it makes more sense this way anyway. If a monster is higher level than you (i.e. stronger or more powerful etc..) then why should it be a walk in the park killing it?

If something is stronger than you are it SHOULD be harder and take more skill to beat

Love the new system.

Not to sound snarky but you just need to learn how to adapt.

[GreatLeviathan]

Hm, let's see what's wrong here......... Level 43 Archer? K, trying to kill 3 Level 46s at once? Nope, you shouldn't be able to solo 3 things 3 levels higher than you, it's called balance, why even have levels if you expect everything to die, you can probably oh I don't know, run away? Run in circles from em and keep using Second Wind is one way to stay alive, pick one monster off, run away! Or maybe try not fighting level 46s until you're level 46.... Cause I'm sure solo, and in my low level, I don't see a need to whine about difficulty, maybe just play better? Abuse running away.. etc.

You can see some just don't really play the game huh..
It was a quest not grind but quest.
I was able to take on 2 lvl 49's before as solo.
I know all too well how to play FF games :-)
Played all of em complete at 100%.

[GreatLeviathan]

can you stop trying to solo in a MMO?

Can you stop making useles replies? I can solo as much as i want to.

[GreatLeviathan]

TBH it makes more sense this way anyway. If a monster is higher level than you (i.e. stronger or more powerful etc..) then why should it be a walk in the park killing it?

If something is stronger than you are it SHOULD be harder and take more skill to beat

Love the new system.

Not to sound snarky but you just need to learn how to adapt.

Yeah the new system is an adjustment.
The materia is still useless but it will get better.
There is not much materia for archers yet well for the Bow's.
But now it's all doing well with some advice from normal people on this forum that don't just **** up peoples post as they don't have a life :-)
Wish SE would ban all of those already. I keep reporting them same with some LS members we mass report em :-)

[Gramul]

You can see some just don't really play the game huh..
It was a quest not grind but quest.
I was able to take on 2 lvl 49's before as solo.
I know all too well how to play FF games :-)
Played all of em complete at 100%.

Yes, but how many have you completed with only one character in your party?
If a quest is too hard for you do do by yourself, don't be afraid to ask others for help.

Could you stop making useless replies? I can solo as much as I want to.

Sure you can. Just don't expect it to be as easy on convenient as playing with a group in a game specifically designed around group play.

:-)