A Deep Dungeon Possible Issue

[Ibi]

How is leaving at floor 49 gonna get you anywhere I believe once you leave and you don't finish to a save meaning beat the 50th floor boss you loose any progress you have made. Correct me if i'm wrong but I think that's how it works.

The idea is that if you've done floors 40 through 49, but didn't get any upgrades, you're not losing anything if you exit without saving your progress.

If you instead proceed to kill the 50th floor boss and save your progress, you've still not gained any upgrades, but now rather than being able to enter on floor 41, you have to enter at floor 1 and clear floors 1 through 40, where you either can't get upgrades or can only get them a very small percentage of the time.

If you find yourself in that position, it's in your best interests to abandon the run. An unscrupulous individual could save themselves the 30 minute cooldown by simply wiping the party, rather than leaving the duty.

[Khalithar]

I can definitely imagine people doing this at the 27/27 or 29/29 range.

[Kurogaea]

Absolutely screaming at

'You can have a noher shit'

Haha made my day.

Oh crap. had no idea I made that typo till hours later lol. I was like "wtf is this guy taking about?" XD

Btw, someone actually asked if they could leave the group if they didn't get their gear levels. I guess asking is ok, but....idk. Its just crappy to me.

[Fynlar]

I would hardly recomend you that dont do this, stoping the progress of random party memmbers on purpose is a great offense and it could have serious consequences.

You asked if people do this? well they do it, but the should never do it.
It happened to me. I was with on a party with random party members. We were on room 49 when one guy said to another one ( possible premade ) that he wasnt going to have the full upgrade on time and asked if we could wipe, the orther guy agreed and so he pulled everything he could and trigger the traps, we had no healers, both died really fast and me and the blm did our best to stay alive but we fail.

I reported this 2 guys, and I got an answer from a GW inmediatly, he told me that I did the right on reporting this. Stopping the progress of ramdom ppl on purpose is reportable.

While just leaving the duty and "screwing over" your party may be a dick move depending on the circumstance, there is no way it will have "serious consequences" purely because of the "may be" factor. Sometimes, people just have to suddenly leave a duty. They aren't just going to ban or otherwise punish players for that (other than with the DF lockout).

[NovaLevossida]

While just leaving the duty and "screwing over" your party may be a dick move depending on the circumstance, there is no way it will have "serious consequences" purely because of the "may be" factor. Sometimes, people just have to suddenly leave a duty. They aren't just going to ban or otherwise punish players for that (other than with the DF lockout).

You can suddenly leave a duty without resorting to wipe the party. The post you quoted is just people doing whatever they can to avoid the quit penalty timer. They can and should be reported for MPKing.

[Fynlar]

You can suddenly leave a duty without resorting to wipe the party.

Why would anyone do that and eat the lockout if the whole point of them abandoning their 41-50 run is to try to get their weapon as fast as possible?

You're not thinking about what motivates people to do these things, and presumably, neither is SE or they would have anticipated people doing this before it even came out of the gate.

[FeliciaTheSecond]

Does it save as you leave the instance thru the portal or will it also save if you choose to leave but after the boss is dead? If so you could leave on floor 50 but not screw anyone over.

Actually I think this would work. Can anyone confirm? Although this morning I dc'd after doing floor 1-10 (just as I was clicking on the exit as luck would have it) and when I was able to get back online about 10 mins later I didn't have any exp and no save data. So it does seem like nothing is saved until you click the exit portal.

[NovaLevossida]

Why would anyone do that and eat the lockout if the whole point of them abandoning their 41-50 run is to try to get their weapon as fast as possible?

You're not thinking about what motivates people to do these things, and presumably, neither is SE or they would have anticipated people doing this before it even came out of the gate.

No, I am thinking about why people do the things they do. In fact, I have written at length on that subject as well as why the design of Deep Dungeon is inferior to Nyzul Isle's design from 10 years ago. But no poor design decision on SE's part can ever justify MPKing your own party members. Hold those players accountable via paging GMs until SE redesigns a very counterproductive progression system that brings out the worst in people.

But then again you seem to know what I'm thinking more than I do, so I could be wrong.

[Fynlar]

Hold those players accountable via paging GMs until SE redesigns a very counterproductive progression system that brings out the worst in people.

The thing is, even though it's not the sort of thing I would do myself (to me that is the price I pay for agreeing to DF a group of randos, and is why I will usually just run this with premades; it has other advantages anyway, like being able to take pomanders into 41-50 to heighten the chances of actually getting silver boxes to appear in the first place as well as quicken the floors in case you do have to repeat them), I perfectly understand why people are doing this and I actually sympathize with it, so why would I report them?

[NovaLevossida]

Sympathizing with MPKers / vowing to not report them is just about the last thing I'd hope anyone to say in a cooperative genre like an MMO. I guess that's indicative of the culture duty finder has produced rather than in other games where your personal reputation actually mattered.