A Deep Dungeon Possible Issue

[NovaLevossida]

While just leaving the duty and "screwing over" your party may be a dick move depending on the circumstance, there is no way it will have "serious consequences" purely because of the "may be" factor. Sometimes, people just have to suddenly leave a duty. They aren't just going to ban or otherwise punish players for that (other than with the DF lockout).

You can suddenly leave a duty without resorting to wipe the party. The post you quoted is just people doing whatever they can to avoid the quit penalty timer. They can and should be reported for MPKing.

[Fynlar]

You can suddenly leave a duty without resorting to wipe the party.

Why would anyone do that and eat the lockout if the whole point of them abandoning their 41-50 run is to try to get their weapon as fast as possible?

You're not thinking about what motivates people to do these things, and presumably, neither is SE or they would have anticipated people doing this before it even came out of the gate.

[NovaLevossida]

Why would anyone do that and eat the lockout if the whole point of them abandoning their 41-50 run is to try to get their weapon as fast as possible?

You're not thinking about what motivates people to do these things, and presumably, neither is SE or they would have anticipated people doing this before it even came out of the gate.

No, I am thinking about why people do the things they do. In fact, I have written at length on that subject as well as why the design of Deep Dungeon is inferior to Nyzul Isle's design from 10 years ago. But no poor design decision on SE's part can ever justify MPKing your own party members. Hold those players accountable via paging GMs until SE redesigns a very counterproductive progression system that brings out the worst in people.

But then again you seem to know what I'm thinking more than I do, so I could be wrong.

[Fynlar]

Hold those players accountable via paging GMs until SE redesigns a very counterproductive progression system that brings out the worst in people.

The thing is, even though it's not the sort of thing I would do myself (to me that is the price I pay for agreeing to DF a group of randos, and is why I will usually just run this with premades; it has other advantages anyway, like being able to take pomanders into 41-50 to heighten the chances of actually getting silver boxes to appear in the first place as well as quicken the floors in case you do have to repeat them), I perfectly understand why people are doing this and I actually sympathize with it, so why would I report them?

[NovaLevossida]

Sympathizing with MPKers / vowing to not report them is just about the last thing I'd hope anyone to say in a cooperative genre like an MMO. I guess that's indicative of the culture duty finder has produced rather than in other games where your personal reputation actually mattered.

[Fynlar]

It's one thing to be cooperative... it's another thing entirely when people become expected to essentially give up their previous 4 dungeon runs for the sake of the 5th group. Far fewer people are willing to do that, even the more benevolent sorts, and I understand that. It's not like these are quick 15-20 minute dungeon runs either, except maybe the first 10 floors.

[Frederick22]

It's one thing to be cooperative... it's another thing entirely when people become expected to essentially give up their previous 4 dungeon runs for the sake of the 5th group. Far fewer people are willing to do that, even the more benevolent sorts, and I understand that. It's not like these are quick 15-20 minute dungeon runs either, except maybe the first 10 floors.

.
Those 2 guys that were pre made didnt care at all about the opinion of the random players. Did they asked our opinion of the matter? No! They didnt care at all, they just wanted to finish their aetherpool before reaching to floor 50.
They reallly prefer provoke a duty fail than just eating the 30 min penalty for leaving.

Amaisingly, this guys were very hardcore, our ran was very fast and they did know when and when not use the pomaders. My second try was much slower and we had to hurry up on the remaining floors.

Of course I made a report and a GM answer me inmediatly. I explained what happened and gave me the full reason of it. You cannot stop the progress of orthers at purpose by force and has it big consequences.

[MeiUshu]

.
snip.

I am not sure I understood what you meant. The GM gave you an answer or just didnt care ? your last sentence to me makes no sense. Did he mean there would be conséquences for those that acted like that ?

Could you please clarify a bit ?

[Frederick22]

I am not sure I understood what you meant. The GM gave you an answer or just didnt care ? your last sentence to me makes no sense. Did he mean there would be conséquences for those that acted like that ?

Could you please clarify a bit ?

It makes sence but oh well e__e

I made the report and I got a response from a GM inmediatly. He asked what exacly happened and I explained to him, he agreed with me and said that I did good on making the report.

So yes, stoping the progress of orthers by force is a punishable act.

[MeiUshu]

It makes sence but oh well e__e

I made the report and I got a response from a GM inmediatly. He asked what exacly happened and I explained to him, he agreed with me and said that I did good on making the report.

So yes, stoping the progress of orthers by force is a punishable act.

Thanks for the clarification and good to know.
Often then not people dont clear floors and they miss on chests. Just to give an example floor 21-30 the only silver chests we got (3) were from mobs. But people are sooo in a hurry you know then complain they have to do it again