For those who haven't tried getting catalysts: It takes more farming for those than farming dungeons. And you also got the materia needed, and to gert forbidden materia craft you gotta add LOTS of materia to different gear. with a rate of 1 catalyst per hour you need x hours just to learn forbidden materia, then x hours for good materia to drop, then x hours for more catalysts. In these hours you could get about 3 whole sets of dungeon gear. Please, say one more time that materia crafts should be worse than the dungeon gear