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    randysquirrel's Avatar
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    imo the question should be "is buying clears in the spirit of the game?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by randysquirrel View Post
    imo the question should be "is buying clears in the spirit of the game?"
    No it is not. I'm in the camp that is against selling clears of any kind so either gitgud at content or just don't complete it. Make some friends and work though content together or get your fc to work together and clear it. The point is ppl who bought clears dilute the duty finder/pf pugs (which is already pretty bad in NA) and if ppl aren't motivated to play the game enough to work for a clear instead of buying then why would they continue to stay subbed?

    It all goes back to the adage of teaching a man to fish rather than giving him one. Ppl gotta make money I get it but I still cringe when I see sell parties and it's even worse when its ppl I know. I also feel this may be a mental shift in causal gamer mentality where they feel that they need to buy clears in order to be accepted into the playerbase. Kind of like poor kids buying nice clothes to fit in. Though this is just an observation and hypothesis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marxam View Post
    No it is not. I'm in the camp that is against selling clears of any kind so either gitgud at content or just don't complete it. Make some friends and work though content together or get your fc to work together and clear it. The point is ppl who bought clears dilute the duty finder/pf pugs (which is already pretty bad in NA) and if ppl aren't motivated to play the game enough to work for a clear instead of buying then why would they continue to stay subbed?
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    Again i'll ask: Whats the difference between paying someone to carry you which you have a problem with and being carried by your friends/FC which you dont have a problem with?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitano123 View Post
    Again i'll ask: Whats the difference between paying someone to carry you which you have a problem with and being carried by your friends/FC which you dont have a problem with?



    People will still buy money from RMTs to buy Savage rushes, crafting gear, minions, Housing etc...
    Selling clears might increase RMT activity, but these people will buy gil for everything else, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitano123 View Post
    Again i'll ask: Whats the difference between paying someone to carry you which you have a problem with and being carried by your friends/FC which you dont have a problem with?
    Your question is easely answered : none

    the point of Marxam though is totally another.

    As for OP question, is it in the right spirit ? that dépends whom you ask. Those that sell those runs will tell you yes..afterall they make themselves available to take others through content for a price, is up to people to accept this or not, so those who accept think is totally ok and those who dont think is not ok but in the end, those that accepted are wel ahead those that didnt accept so really spirit, morality and the like are words that will be adapted depending who pronounces them
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