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  1. #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xlantaa View Post
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    • Dancer: A non magic healer which fight with Chakram/Fan (cannot be daggers for ovius reasons) and uses TP fo skills and MP for dances, similar to a Bard. Can use differens dances to enhance party or detriment enemies.

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    I always thought Dancer could work as an offshoot of rogue...

    But the devs don't want to do multiple jobs off of classses anymore.
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  2. #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khalithar View Post
    Sort of. But that runs the risk of being redundant with the alchemist present. I was thinking along the lines of a healer using what could basically be considered the equivalent of mobile surgical machines and devices. If you've played swtor, the Operative healer in that game fires darts loaded with medicine as it's "Cure" spell, their "cure II" is a larger robot that deals a larger injection, and a robot that uses a medicinal spray as it's "Regen" spell.
    That does not fit with the fact that the Garlean Empire employs a lot of Conjurors for healing. Not to mention their magitek devices allow them to emulate magic spells if need be. So there would be no healer using surgical bots.

    Would be more likely for them to come out with something like a Magitek Trooper, a soldier wearing a magitek powered armor to enhance their attacks, using cartridges to fire off elemental attacks. Which would fit right in with a Garlean themed expansion.
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  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xlantaa View Post
    Samurai: Tank, using Katanas, specialliced on evade/parry tank and caster type combat, simialr to bard/machinist, but only on DPS stance. Tank stance needs movility, so no castings here.
    simply no, first samurai are not caster, second we already have a caster class based on parry/evasion it's called the dark knight. plus bard and machinist is maybe the less interesting gameplay out, please don't copy it for melee. plus yoshida have already stated it will come as dps

    Quote Originally Posted by Xlantaa View Post
    Sword Mage: Also knows as Mystic Knight. A DPS class wich uses scimitars/1 handed swords and enchanted them with spells (usually elemental spells, but elements in this game are not a thing...)
    you know it's often the same thing than red mage? some game did added it in place of red mage or as recquirement for red mage...

    Quote Originally Posted by Xlantaa View Post
    Dancer: A non magic healer which fight with Chakram/Fan (cannot be daggers for ovius reasons) and uses TP fo skills and MP for dances, similar to a Bard. Can use differens dances to enhance party or detriment enemies.
    i prefere see the dancer with either whip or weapon placed on the leg, making it a class that don't really wield weapon.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xlantaa View Post
    Red Mage: A melee support which uses boh magic and physical attacks. Fights with a rapier/1 handed sword and uses combinations of support and ofensive spells.
    planned, but i'm not sure it will arrive under this form, because a jobs that can do all is not a good thing... melee, casted offensive and support spell.... that almost 3 role in one class.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xlantaa View Post
    Geomancer: Magic class healer which wields a bell and uses the power of nature to heal and attack. In some way, is very similar to conjurer/white mage, so I guess is not possible now.
    already exist in the conjurer class, that sad, but if you read the story about them, they are wielding the power of the element, what is the core mechanic of the geomancer.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xlantaa View Post
    Beast Master: Pet oriented class which uses a Whip. They fight commanding his pet (in a more direct way than Summoner) and uses his abilities to enhance pets power.
    can be fun, this one will be tricky tough

    Quote Originally Posted by Xlantaa View Post
    Puppet Master: This is no classic, because only exist 2 games with this one, Final Fantasy IV The After Years (Luca can control Calcabrina Dolls) and Final Fantasy XI. An alternative to Beast Master, this one uses Puppets, which can be his own weapons or a summoned pet. Like Beast Master, they fight 80% with pets.
    will probably never happend, sadly. you can found the puppet in uld'ah it's a way to bring some jobs without adding them.


    Quote Originally Posted by TaranTatsuuchi View Post
    I always thought Dancer could work as an offshoot of rogue...

    But the devs don't want to do multiple jobs off of classses anymore.
    i will have more see it from pug, with kicking combo for do them support action, it will have been nice.
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  4. #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    plus yoshida have already stated it will come as dps
    thats not true, toshida exact words are "whe choose DRk to be the next tank for heavensward reasons, and the SAM feels like a dps to hem"

    and thas whe said several months before heavensward, there is not official words about what roles gonna be the SAM until october if they in the end choose the job for the next expansion.

    and yes yoshida is the boss but everyone already need to know without any official announcement all words are smoke, more if are personal feeling, devs go to add to the game the jobs and the roles they need, SAM is 50-50% in both roles for now.
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  5. #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khalithar View Post
    Sort of. But that runs the risk of being redundant with the alchemist present. I was thinking along the lines of a healer using what could basically be considered the equivalent of mobile surgical machines and devices. If you've played swtor, the Operative healer in that game fires darts loaded with medicine as it's "Cure" spell, their "cure II" is a larger robot that deals a larger injection, and a robot that uses a medicinal spray as it's "Regen" spell.
    Well what you're describing actually is how Chemist plays in some of the previous FFs. In Tactics they literally shot their allies with a gun that launched potions. They wouldn't need to actually use physical items, just have the skills and mechanics themed on the concept of using such things. I was hoping MCH was going to be Chemist when they started teasing the gun job but there's still room for us to get a different type of gun weapon in future.
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  6. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by shao32 View Post
    thats not true, toshida exact words are "whe choose DRk to be the next tank for heavensward reasons, and the SAM feels like a dps to hem"

    and thas whe said several months before heavensward, there is not official words about what roles gonna be the SAM until october if they in the end choose the job for the next expansion.

    and yes yoshida is the boss but everyone already need to know without any official announcement all words are smoke, more if are personal feeling, devs go to add to the game the jobs and the roles they need, SAM is 50-50% in both roles for now.
    you want a good reason? samurai will be too similar to the dark knight and warrior as tank....
    - if they make it a pure physical, you already have the warrior that fill the role of tank that deal damage and are based on evasion/parry
    - if they add some sort of magic, it will be like the dark knight that too is based on evasion/parry.

    no reason to add samurai as tank, without forget that it will be another sword user in the tank.... when the dps don't even have one and is asked for ages.

    ps: plus add another tank, will not solve the trouble of tank, people that hate tanking will still hate it, even if that the jobs they want. a lot of people did try dark knight because they love the jobs, but did stop because they hate tanking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post

    ps: plus add another tank, will not solve the trouble of tank, people that hate tanking will still hate it, even if that the jobs they want. a lot of people did try dark knight because they love the jobs, but did stop because they hate tanking.
    Not exactly true, while sure some will refuse all together but those who were unsure may pick it up to test it and find they enjoy it. How it was for me with DRK. I leveled PLD/WAR but had no interest in tanking as a full time role until DRK came out.
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  8. #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    you want a good reason? samurai will be too similar to the dark knight and warrior as tank....
    I don't know how many MMO's you've played so I'm not going to make any assumptions, however, there are lots of different tanking mechanics and unique abilities this game does not have that could be incorporated in to future tanks. Just to name a few:

    -damage reflection/counter attacking
    -damage absorption
    -damage staggering
    -rotation built around maintaining a defensive buff

    I could go on. But saying that it will be too similar or that those are the only mechanics that can be utilized is patently false.
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    I thought of the greatest job ever. Gillionare!

    He fights by using his gil to summon paid soldiers to do his work for him. His combos cheap, costly, and expensive with each attack does more and cost more gil because it's a higher quality soldier. His weapon is a money bag.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    no reason to add samurai as tank, without forget that it will be another sword user in the tank.... when the dps don't even have one and is asked for ages.
    like Khalithar say there are many other mechanics SE can use to make a new tank so thats not a problem.

    i dont think tanks have any problem more that the parry and the WAR in the OT throne, and parry go to be fixed soo...

    ninja no matter how many ppl denies is a sword user, ninjas can use daggers, knifes, ninjatos and short swords, you have even one named machete, is not eh sword user they want? sure but that dont change short or large a sword is a sword.

    and i dont think ppl hate tanking, i know a lot of ppl how love being tank thanks to DRK and WAR 3.0 meta, after all tanking is not so diferent to pure DPS.
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    Last edited by shao32; 07-19-2016 at 06:53 AM.

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