Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Alestorm]

Ran a daily MSQ scenario for some quick poetics to save for White Mage gear on my ninja spec. Turns out to be Nidhogg and we had one major issue: 2 summoners. Both were pretty bad, and they would use Limit Break on the 3 mini bosses during add phase. We couldn't clear it because the DPS was severely hurt by this and after wipe 3 they began to blame me (the ninja) and the Dragoon. We busted out butts to do damage, good rotations and used everything at our disposal. After the 4th wipe me and the Dragoon both agreed we couldn't carry with 2 bad casters wished everyone else luck and we left... we threw away what should have been an easy 60 poetics with bonus.

Sometimes I wonder why Summoner is allowed to be so low on damage.

[Imoen]

Ran Weeping City for the first time, cuz I'm a lazy turd, (aka.. I had work related things to take care of before this patch) it went .. good considering I had no idea what I was doing. With that said, I'm not completely sure after that first run what the complaints are about the "difficulty" are... it seemed fine?

I couldn't end this post without giving a shout out to the person that gave me extra insight when needed ( you know who you are, out of respect I did not name you here).

Anyway we hear about a lot of bad encounters in this thread... I felt like mine went ok, So I wanted to share that "ok" experience with people.

Happy adventuring.

[Bebekurenai]

That was actually a sarcastic remark made towards the mentor. He was a mentor but didn't want to mentor anybody. You'd have to read my early posts a few pages back. I was left with a choice between kicking him or the newbie (I called him out for not helping the tank, he said this wasn't his mentor roulette so I guess he implied it wasn't his problem. He immediately became a kick candidate). The other guy (he was with me) was already saying the same thing as well. Not very fair to us if we have to put the brakes on the dungeon run in order to break in the new guy, especially when we have a mentor in the group who should've been doing this to begin with. If Mr. Mentor hadn't have been there, things might have been different. But, it was what it was.

Secondly, it'd have taken a lot longer than just 2 minutes to train this guy. Most if not all that stuff I'd have to explain to him, not just 1 or 2. The guy looked like a solo quester (he had a little of everything, gear-wise, from all different levels) who was only there because he had to be, not because he wanted to be. Chances are he couldn't have cared less about the advice anyway or maybe even be annoyed by it (had that happen in Haukke Manor once, with a mentor that actually did try to help). A no-win situation at the time.

Even more reason to have kicked the mentor together with a report. Phathoms me how you guys kicked the sprout, really. Now we have another prick mentor who got away with this behaviour. Thanks pal.

[Awful]

Not very fair to us if we have to put the brakes on the dungeon run in order to break in the new guy, especially when we have a mentor in the group who should've been doing this to begin with. If Mr. Mentor hadn't have been there, things might have been different. But, it was what it was.

Secondly, it'd have taken a lot longer than just 2 minutes to train this guy. Most if not all that stuff I'd have to explain to him, not just 1 or 2. The guy looked like a solo quester (he had a little of everything, gear-wise, from all different levels) who was only there because he had to be, not because he wanted to be. Chances are he couldn't have cared less about the advice anyway or maybe even be annoyed by it (had that happen in Haukke Manor once, with a mentor that actually did try to help). A no-win situation at the time.

You just proved my point though you and the mentor didn't help which you should have i'm not saying you have to but as a fellow player to another player who is just starting how do you think they feel when they get kicked by a mentor and someone who is also max lvl/knowledgeable of old content? You said in previous posts there were many things you could have said to him, I know I would have but i'm not you, I don't know how you play it's not my business and I can't be bothered what bothers me is you guys did nothing but kick him and that's a really crappy thing to do for someone who hasn't even hit lvl cap.

People learn at different skill lvls people are good, people are bad, people will listen if you got his attention i'm sure that the leaf would have said "Understood". I mean hell I just did a Hullbreaker normal with a lvl 60. LEVEL 60. Never did the dungeons, explained every fight to them, took maybe 30 seconds at most. You could have said in Cutters Cry "Hey this worm guy goes underground! Watch out and stick to the walls and away from people!" or for Chimera "If the eyes shine blue move out! If they're purple move in!" since that's the most people struggle with.

Again you bring up the mentor to do the mentoring when the system is flawed? People are greedy and do it for the rewards so basically you let him get away with it so you're part of the problem in that dungeon run. There are mentors who do it to help so i'm not saying all mentors are just in it for the crown and achievements but the ones you run into are and they're the ones you'll remember.

But I just have to ask why not kick the mentor instead of the newbie and try to talk to the sprout to give him more insight on tanking? Because to me and everyone who reads this it's really sleazy what you guys did, don't mean to provoke you or anything but was really unjustified.

[Mysterysword]

I've been neglecting my roulettes all week. I think I did Expert/Leveling/Trials roulette, all as lvl. 60 jobs, for maybe 2-3 days since reset? Those are all the roulettes I did this week, that gave me tomestones of lore.

Long story short, I've capped on lore this week, from doing nothing but Wiping Shitty, which should be a good indicator of how many runs I had to do just to get the 1 piece of gear that I wanted. Caster gear was starting to feel like a mere myth, and so was basic competency from people.

I just can't even be bothered to dig up a list of specific incidents now, there are too many to count. But most of all, I am so very tired of dying and wiping, not through any fault of my own, but because of the incompetency of others.

And also, tanks need to stop pulling bosses to the other edge of the arena when I've already slapped down Ley Lines. I wish this wasn't a frequent enough occurrence for me to complain about it.

[Joe_Schmoe]

But I just have to ask why not kick the mentor instead of the newbie and try to talk to the sprout to give him more insight on tanking? Because to me and everyone who reads this it's really sleazy what you guys did, don't mean to provoke you or anything but was really unjustified.

One, it might not have gone through (you need 3 votes as far as I know). The guy I was with probably would've voted against it, since he was fed up with the tank as well, so that was out. Not sure what the tank would've done. He was the wild card. He could've been trolling us for all we know (my partner suggested that, and having been there myself I took that into consideration as well). As far as reporting, the mentor was a lvl 60 so I presumed he had more game knowledge than me or the tank did (I wasn't even sure how reporting actually worked, since I didn't see a 'right-click' option). He could've reported me if he was kicked. I understand that, theoretically, the tank could've done the same thing, but I was just going with what I got at the time, it was a judgement call.

P.S. Liked your post by the way, for what it's worth.

[SpiritMuse]

One, it might not have gone through (you need 3 votes as far as I know).

You only need two votes in favor as there are only three people voting.

[Joe_Schmoe]

You only need two votes in favor as there are only three people voting.

Ahh that's right. Majority

Too used to WoW, where there's 5 people in a group, not 4. Good to know.

[Drkdays]

. Not sure what the tank would've done. He was the wild card. He could've been trolling us for all we know (my partner suggested that, and having been there myself I took that into consideration as well) , but I was just going with what I got at the time, it was a judgement call.

P.S. Liked your post by the way, for what it's worth.

"I'm gonna have to let you go, Jim, it's just not working out."
"But...but it's only my second day!"
"You're just not pulling your weight and we don't have time to teach you how to do your job."

[Aosha]

OK Weeping Snip.

Good thing you got a bearable first run!
It's not really that WC is super hard, it's just really easy for one or two bad people to mess the whole thing up for everybody. Lets hope you keep not running into such people.