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  1. #4341
    Player
    Gilded's Avatar
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    Shial Izha
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    Brynhildr
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    Machinist Lv 70
    Had a lvl60 roulette earlier in Fractal. Tank says they're new. Dps claims they need to, uh, have a bathroom break and bails out. The mentor healer follows suit. I stay with the tank and said I'd ask my FC if someone's willing to help. Another healer with a crown comes in, casts protect, and after a minute or two leaves. A few moments tick by, yet another healer with a crown, and this time my FCmate queues in as a DPS. We go through the dungeon, with my FCmate and I trying to explain the boss fights. No wipes, might have taken a bit longer than usual but I have no gripes with that. I'm just astounded that Those With the Crown are the ones that bail out.
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  2. #4342
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    Ninster's Avatar
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    Ninster Barlow
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    Goblin
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilded View Post
    Had a lvl60 roulette earlier in Fractal. Tank says they're new. Dps claims they need to, uh, have a bathroom break and bails out. The mentor healer follows suit. I stay with the tank and said I'd ask my FC if someone's willing to help. Another healer with a crown comes in, casts protect, and after a minute or two leaves. A few moments tick by, yet another healer with a crown, and this time my FCmate queues in as a DPS. We go through the dungeon, with my FCmate and I trying to explain the boss fights. No wipes, might have taken a bit longer than usual but I have no gripes with that. I'm just astounded that Those With the Crown are the ones that bail out.
    I'm just astounded there are people leaving Fractal period.

    If it's through lvl 60 roulette, literally anything beats landing in ARF for the 50th time.
    If it's through Mentor roulette, Fractal's as easy as you can get.
    If it's through direct queue all I can say is: wat.

    I love Fractal. It's easy, it's fast, it's great. It also has an Owlet minion I don't have yet so maybe my opinion's a bit biased.
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  3. #4343
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    HyoMinPark's Avatar
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    Hyomin Park
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    Cactuar
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    Sage Lv 92
    That minute when you ask people to please save the lb3 until 5% on Ozma and Calo in case a healer lb3 is needed--and they use it the minute it pops. Funnily enough, both times resulted in an entire wipe of my alliance.

    Even better, when they don't bother to let the lb even build up past the first bar during Forgell.

    Way to go, DPS. Way to go.
    (2)
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  4. #4344
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    Awful's Avatar
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    Awful Name
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    Faerie
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Joe_Schmoe View Post
    ....then that takes up way too much time, and I'm sure the other guys didn't queue up for this (and I know that mentor sure didn't!). Not very fair to them.
    Are you serious? You kicked a sprout because It'd not be FAIR to the mentor and other people who are max lvl!? Give your head a shake man get off your high horse and help the new players if they're struggling. It literally takes 2 mins out of your day and makes that person more confident for future content, what did you think "Oh I have a mentor he'll explain everything so I won't have to!".

    I"m not a mentor and I still take time out of my game time if I see someone struggling I don't care if the group complains it's not "It's my sub I play how I want" it's being a helpful player and a nice person in a already toxic community that if you're a tank you need to lead, you need to know what you're doing 1000% of the time, no that's not it at all if someone's new and they are struggling then you'll quickly jump to the conclusion of man this guys terrible.

    All those points you outlined why didn't you say them? To me it's like you didn't even try to help this poor sprout at all. As for that mentor we already know that the majority of mentors just want it for the crown and the 2000 achievement for the mount which'll take years to get and rightfully so. Having an incentive to even be a mentor and help people is counter intuitive to actually help people.


    Anyways rant done.

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    Last edited by Awful; 07-17-2016 at 06:44 AM.

  5. #4345
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    Savagelf's Avatar
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    Aribeth Lightbringer
    World
    Behemoth
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ninster View Post
    I'm just astounded there are people leaving Fractal period.

    If it's through lvl 60 roulette, literally anything beats landing in ARF for the 50th time.
    If it's through Mentor roulette, Fractal's as easy as you can get.
    If it's through direct queue all I can say is: wat.

    I love Fractal. It's easy, it's fast, it's great. It also has an Owlet minion I don't have yet so maybe my opinion's a bit biased.
    sorry I made that mistake as dps before. does anyone else have people leave for reason even when group is going well. or get kick when group is going well at any point this does seem stranger to me
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    Last edited by Savagelf; 07-17-2016 at 07:30 AM.

  6. #4346
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    SpiritMuse's Avatar
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    Lelane Lavellan
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by raela View Post
    I get really annoyed by twitchy BLMs that are constantly casting/canceling until the tank pulls. I imagine the tank didn't realize the BLM wouldn't let the cast complete until the tank ran for the boss.
    This bugs me as well. I had a BLM who tried to do this or precast or something on the first boss of Halatali normal. You know, that level range when tanks have crap aggro generation and have a really difficult time if dps, especially BLMs, decide to go full ham from the first second. I ended up trolling a little and kept running forward and stopping every time I saw him begin to cast so he had to cancel constantly. (He had been a bit of a jerk earlier when I lost aggro to him because he was attacking the wrong target...) He got annoyed and left after the boss was done. It was a good run after that.
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  7. #4347
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    Joe_Schmoe's Avatar
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    Joe Schmoe
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    Hyperion
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Awful View Post
    Are you serious? You kicked a sprout because It'd not be FAIR to the mentor and other people who are max lvl!? Give your head a shake man get off your high horse and help the new players if they're struggling. It literally takes 2 mins out of your day and makes that person more confident for future content, what did you think "Oh I have a mentor he'll explain everything so I won't have to!".
    That was actually a sarcastic remark made towards the mentor. He was a mentor but didn't want to mentor anybody. You'd have to read my early posts a few pages back. I was left with a choice between kicking him or the newbie (I called him out for not helping the tank, he said this wasn't his mentor roulette so I guess he implied it wasn't his problem. He immediately became a kick candidate). The other guy (he was with me) was already saying the same thing as well. Not very fair to us if we have to put the brakes on the dungeon run in order to break in the new guy, especially when we have a mentor in the group who should've been doing this to begin with. If Mr. Mentor hadn't have been there, things might have been different. But, it was what it was.

    Secondly, it'd have taken a lot longer than just 2 minutes to train this guy. Most if not all that stuff I'd have to explain to him, not just 1 or 2. The guy looked like a solo quester (he had a little of everything, gear-wise, from all different levels) who was only there because he had to be, not because he wanted to be. Chances are he couldn't have cared less about the advice anyway or maybe even be annoyed by it (had that happen in Haukke Manor once, with a mentor that actually did try to help). A no-win situation at the time.
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    Last edited by Joe_Schmoe; 07-17-2016 at 04:24 PM.

  8. #4348
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    Ninster's Avatar
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    Ninster Barlow
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    Goblin
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    I had to run Weeping City multiple times today for my loot, and finally got it on my third run. And I think I've earned it. The first two runs went okay, a few people goofed here and there but nothing too bad. Third run was looking to be pretty slow at Arachne Eve, and then after wiping on Forgall, I, against my better judgment (because I don't like setting people off), asked in the alliance chat if vets could explain things for the new people before things got worse. Thankfully, no one raged, although I did get someone that thought we were doing fine.

    Anyway, long story short, we wiped twice at Ozma and Calofisteri dragged on for a long time, but we finished with no one leaving. I had to explain and re-explain a lot though. I'm terrible at words. And typing. And people.
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  9. #4349
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    AnaviAnael's Avatar
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    Anavi Anael
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    Balmung
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by raela View Post
    I get really annoyed by twitchy BLMs that are constantly casting/canceling until the tank pulls. I imagine the tank didn't realize the BLM wouldn't let the cast complete until the tank ran for the boss.
    Quote Originally Posted by SpiritMuse View Post
    This bugs me as well.
    :O I'm not the only one?!?

    I always imagine these people sitting at their keyboard all, "HURRY UP GOTTA GO FAST GET THIS DUNGEON QUICK" while pounding on their buttons.
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  10. #4350
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    Fina Sela'dor
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    Carbuncle
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    Ninja Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by AnaviAnael View Post
    :O I'm not the only one?!?

    I always imagine these people sitting at their keyboard all, "HURRY UP GOTTA GO FAST GET THIS DUNGEON QUICK" while pounding on their buttons.
    I guess I must be really lucky as I've only had a BLM like this once before.
    But rather than beginning casting and stopping casting, he would just pull the mobs instead of the tank.

    He also refused to roll for loot, so we couldn't kick him. But thankfully the timer expired RIGHT before the tank pulled the 2nd boss and I was able to get in the "vote dismiss" option just one second before the tank pulled.

    He was kicked within 2 seconds.
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