I guess it's time

[Lambadelta]

Do you have any idea about the content you would like to see ? Didn't went throught the 70 pages of the thread... my bad

For the rewards in Savage part I mostly do Savage for the fun, and getting bis. I would like some small extra rewards though like titles (Like Savage Coil), and more vanity item drops like mounts/minions (Not just at the final fight, but a chance at maybe a mini version of each boss to drop from an additional chest).

I haven't posted ideas in this thread about additional content yet but personally I would like to see

Savage 4man Dungeons
Savage 24man

in terms of brand new content I would think it would be quite hard to impliment any openworld content that would either stay interesting, or meaningful so would like to really just see more Extreme Primals, and a few more choices for gear.

Such as having Extreme Primals drop non-weapon based gear again like accessories, and maybe even armour pieces to add more than just Savage Raid, or Upgraded Lore when looking at BiS.

[Watachy]

For the rewards in Savage part I mostly do Savage for the fun, and getting bis. I would like some small extra rewards though like titles (Like Savage Coil), and more vanity item drops like mounts/minions (Not just at the final fight, but a chance at maybe a mini version of each boss to drop from an additional chest).

I haven't posted ideas in this thread about additional content yet but personally I would like to see

Savage 4man Dungeons
Savage 24man

That's some pretty interesting ideas.
I agree that at least titles or pets should be great for people that cleared the savage content, i love the coils savages ones !
I saw that many people abandonned savages by hurting themselves to A3S or A8S and the only thing they got by clearing the others were just the BIS gears.
I would like this kind of the changes to happen, looks a bit more worth it for players that invest themselves in savages.

in terms of brand new content I would think it would be quite hard to impliment any openworld content that would either stay interesting, or meaningful so would like to really just see more Extreme Primals, and a few more choices for gear.

Such as having Extreme Primals drop non-weapon based gear again like accessories, and maybe even armour pieces to add more than just Savage Raid, or Upgraded Lore when looking at BiS.

Holy crap i want a Crystal chest from Shiva !

[RLofOBFL]

What I am getting at is...think about it.

The whole reason gear is outdated so fast & tomestones become uncapped is so people don't get discouraged/overwhelmed & can play with their bffs right out the gate at 60 instead of being forced to work to get appropriate gear for 10 months then finally be able to do something. People ALREADY get discouraged by the 1000000 story quests that's why they're considering level potions & 4.0 will be accessible w/o 3.0. If there were quests & gearing up people would surely complain.

Imo why even play a game if you just want to skip all the scenes & get the strongest gear right from the get go....sounds pointless as the whole point of video games is rewards(or story).

[KitingGenbu]

People ALREADY get discouraged by the 1000000 story quests that's why they're considering level potions & 4.0 will be accessible w/o 3.0.

You're absolutely right. There's no way they could've reviewed the figures of the Chinese market that has already been selling them and utilizing that as a way to earn extra cash just like WoW is doing. That would be unthinkable.

[Lyshell]

OMG this thread is still going? lol

[Velhart]

You're absolutely right. There's no way they could've reviewed the figures of the Chinese market that has already been selling them and utilizing that as a way to earn extra cash just like WoW is doing. That would be unthinkable.

How China's system works and NA/EU/JP's work are completely different. Entertainment and how entertainment is paid for is pretty much ruled and approved by their government. Items like that are around because that is what their government approves. SE has to follow strict guidelines to legally keep the game up over there.

Basically, you can't compare the situation in China with us.

What I am getting at is...think about it.

The whole reason gear is outdated so fast & tomestones become uncapped is so people don't get discouraged/overwhelmed & can play with their bffs right out the gate at 60 instead of being forced to work to get appropriate gear for 10 months then finally be able to do something. People ALREADY get discouraged by the 1000000 story quests that's why they're considering level potions & 4.0 will be accessible w/o 3.0. If there were quests & gearing up people would surely complain.

Imo why even play a game if you just want to skip all the scenes & get the strongest gear right from the get go....sounds pointless as the whole point of video games is rewards(or story).

Pretty much. Horizontal promotes this exact kind of play style and can easily turn newer players away. Even in FFXI you had to put a ton of work into being considered viable end game. I attempted to get my friends to play with me, and while they loved the world/story, it was too much on the MMO end to catch up. This will become a problem for FFXIV in the future also in their own way with expansions, which I can't say would be the best approach for that, but it certainly isn't putting an even worse system in regards to that particular problem.

[KitingGenbu]

Basically, you can't compare the situation in China with us.

Seeing as they are trying to bring that China system to the western market, I'd beg to differ with your point. However, if there little leveling potions stayed in the Chinese market, you would be absolutely right.

[worldofneil]

OMG this thread is still going? lol

I know right!

If anyone that is leaving is on Sargatanas, can I have your stuff please?

I've been playing the game non-stop since launch and I'm happy as it is

[FallenArisen0990]

Instead of giving us new iLv, why not allow us to power-up the gear. Similar to PSO's Grinding system, that way any gear you get (with restrictions of course and similar to what Deep Dungeon seems to be using), will still be viable up to a certain point, making them last longer. You can add grade to the Grinding material and add it to every content. Grade 1-3 for 1-50 4-5 for 50-60. That system worked great in PSO.

[Beetle]

snip.

You go in strength based on the types of armor you collect. (Parry set/Shield Blocking set, TP recovering set, DPS set, Cure Set, Refresh Set, Boosting buffs set.) Resist Poison Rings. etc.
Also if they built the game around having more then one class at max level they can get away with not having a tome cap.
Weapons are armor will get replaced with a different armor piece comes out with higher stats then your current one but it wouldn't happen as often cus you have different armor builds.