Forcing NA Duty Finder to be better, we need a grading system.

[Snugglebutt]

Maybe the people who want slow runs with wipes should be the ones to make party finders to find people who want to play the same way. If you're going to play a video game with other people then putting effort in should be the default and bad gameplay shouldn't.

Unless someone is trolling, no one ever wants wipes or slower runs beyond what the team is capable of handling or being considerate to new players watching cutscenes. But we already have in this game a PF system which allows elitist jerks and/or people who are higher skilled but not elitist to form groups of like minded, equally skilled people. If do not like the fact DF in NA and EU servers is used for new players and has a large variation in skill levels plus hate using PF to do what I just suggested then play on a JP server if prefer their method.

[Obysuca]

But we already have in this game a PF system which allows elitist jerks and/or people who are higher skilled but not elitist to form groups of like minded, equally skilled people.

But PF doesn't guarantee you'll get equally skilled people. Don't forget, there's people who claim they know all phases of a fight or say "farm party" but actually have no clue what to do and just joined / made the PF hoping people would carry them. Instead of going out of our way to find people of average skill or higher, should we not try to improve the minimum skill level of the playerbase instead?

Which of these options sounds better to you? Spending 30 mins - hours+ to get into something, only to find out everyone is utter crap and you just wasted that time getting in or having a playerbase with a higher minimum skill level, so when you get into something, theres less than a 5% chance of the pt being utter crap so you can actually clear it?

[Normalizer]

Unless someone is trolling, no one ever wants wipes or slower runs beyond what the team is capable of handling or being considerate to new players watching cutscenes. But we already have in this game a PF system which allows elitist jerks and/or people who are higher skilled but not elitist to form groups of like minded, equally skilled people. If do not like the fact DF in NA and EU servers is used for new players and has a large variation in skill levels plus hate using PF to do what I just suggested then play on a JP server if prefer their method.

It's kinda funny when you see people jump into a topic clearly only read a selected few posts and start calling everyone elitist this elitist that. Who said they hate new players in DF? Most people here only want that any player in DF would at least try or put in effort to learn or do their job. No kind of excuse can be justified for a (not new) player at level 60 in i220+ doing 300-500 dps (which is basically not even 50% of what they should be able to do, and not even have to try that hard to reach).