Players Who Don't pull their weight.

[Larkspur]

Attitude is everything. Improve yours, and I guarantee you'll have a better time on the whole.

I wish everyone had this mindset.

[Chiramu]

I wish everyone had this mindset.

More people from FFXIV need to play MOBAs. Spend some time with those people and DF in FFXIV won't bother you anymore .

[Larkspur]

More people from FFXIV need to play MOBAs. Spend some time with those people and DF in FFXIV won't bother you anymore .

Funny you should say this, I play DOTA 2/League during the vacation from FFXIV when I feel bored between patches.

[Mahri]

Go figure, that's exactly why I don't play MOBAs. I like video games being fun and not filled with generalized bile and resentment, which seems to have long since been the established culture of such venues.

[Larkspur]

Go figure, that's exactly why I don't play MOBAs. I like video games being fun and not filled with generalized bile and resentment, which seems to have long since been the established culture of such venues.

MOBA players do have a reputation for being toxic, yes. That doesn't mean ALL of them are assholes, myself included.

[Klamor]

Pulling back the focus a bit, I'm a bit bewildered, because these bad experiences in DF aren't what I'd personally call "frequent" in my experience, and I've been playing steadily since 2.0 rolled out. Yeah, you get some poor attitudes, some clearly inexperienced players, and sometimes even a bit of overlap between the two, but they're the exception rather than the rule. Most people just want to get stuff done; not necessarily in the most efficient conceivable way, but the goal is the same.

So at this point, all that really should be said is: If these people complaining are really having frequent problems in the Duty Finder, the most common factor can be observed in the nearest mirror.

Attitude is everything. Improve yours, and I guarantee you'll have a better time on the whole.

But what you're actually calling "improving attitude" is really just "stop giving a shit about doing well at what you're doing." I guess I could be as oblivious as this DRK, but I'm not interested in Idiocracy becoming a reality.

[RiceisNice]

But what you're actually calling "improving attitude" is really just "stop giving a shit about doing well at what you're doing." I guess I could be as oblivious as this DRK, but I'm not interested in Idiocracy becoming a reality.

This is exactly what triggers me, espesically when said Tanks are strugglign with aggro because they aren't using their toolkit (in this example, no dorkside for the extra damage. It's also loss of mitigation abilities for pulls as well.

Nor is mana management that difficult or taxing unless you're min maxing. You can easily maintain it by doing a syphon combo every other time, and even without dork arts you're getting the damage buff. Not to mention the aforementioned mitigation abilties.

[Alistaire]

Yeah it's funny the correlation between people who say others are toxic and how they play, both in the games played and placing the blame on anyone but themselves.

[Mahri]

MOBA players do have a reputation for being toxic, yes. That doesn't mean ALL of them are assholes, myself included.

I believe you, but I've just been worn down by their reputation and the few glances I've taken. I'd had enough of that already in random group content in WoW. It's enough for me that FFXIV hasn't been similarly poisoned at the well...not for lack of trying, as these threads may imply, but astoundingly, good sense is surprisingly common even on these forums.

...ironically, this was posted as I was typing that:

But what you're actually calling "improving attitude" is really just "stop giving a shit about doing well at what you're doing."

Wrong.



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Oh hey, guess your word is law so we can close the thread now right?

I'm correct, true, but don't take my word for it.

[Alistaire]

Wrong.

Oh hey, guess your word is law so we can close the thread now right?