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  1. #241
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    Mattelot Leviathan
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Sticks and stones, Sera. Have a good holiday!
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  2. #242
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    Flo Fyloord
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaeIsMean View Post
    I hardly think that "most DF people" are failing as bad as you say. Come on now.
    Your milage will vary. Out of the 2 weeks I subbed just for 3.3, I queue with a friend and I/we've had

    -A BLM that doesn't use fire III or blizzard III to switch, he'd always wait on transpose.
    -A PLD that can't combo and loses aggro
    -A DRK that doesn't use dorkside and constantly loses aggro
    -A DRG that only spams phlebotomize
    -Countless people who consistently die to telegraphed aoes on Nidhogg Normal (and I mean the horrid roars and hottails, not the divebombs).'

    Especially the latter is what gets me the most, because this is all happening at level 60 in EX dungeons (which require you to have at least i200, so you've spent some amount of time at level 60 even if you are a fresh cap). Telegraphed AoEs is not a new concept, you should be dodging them to begin with. "I'm new to a fight" does not mean you're new to the game.
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  3. #243
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    Mattelot's Avatar
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    Mattelot Leviathan
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    Some people are just not very good at these games. A buddy of mine had his girlfriend play with him and she was not good at all. Granted. He did little to train her. He just had her follow him and tunnel vision the game. I'm sure she's been bullied for it.
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  4. #244
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    Arawn Wymer
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    Omega
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    I'm sure you bully people too matty, after all, you bullied me. Hurts my feelings too. Not only that, calling me words and say things I never would call you makes me super sad.

    Also did 1 hour nidhogg normal mode ques as sch, i derped on purposes sometimes to see if they actually noticed or not, then I also let the other healer do more heal alone, sometimes I wouldn't even dps at all, sometimes I would, etc etc.

    https://www.twitch.tv/ancitius/v/76000507 you guys can see for yourself how great players are.
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  5. #245
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    MihaelB's Avatar
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    Mihael Blue
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    Tonberry
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    Summoner Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Mattelot View Post
    Some people are just not very good at these games. A buddy of mine had his girlfriend play with him and she was not good at all. Granted. He did little to train her. He just had her follow him and tunnel vision the game. I'm sure she's been bullied for it.
    There's a difference at being not good and not willing to be better. You choosing to not DPS and not choosing to learn to DPS whilst healing are completely different matters.

    People willing to learn rotations and spend time learning their rotations despite being bad is way more productive than just simply being a negative factor in duties. You can tell these people apart very easily and our communities (NA VS Japan) is very apparent in juxtaposed demeanor in respect to their skill level.
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    Teraluna's Avatar
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    Tera Luna
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    Louisoix
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Pulling their weight...that means a lalafell doesn't have to do as much as other classes as they're the lightest.

    Damn I rolled wrong race.
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  8. #247
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    Mihael, me not wanting to DPS while I heal is my choice to make. I feel that I do just fine. There is a difference between being plain bad and choosing not to perform out of the scope of your role. If i just danced and let people die, that's one thing. Also, I read so much garbage "advice" on here. Those same people condescend if you don't agree.

    DE-Roxas, thast a bad comparison. A Smn who only uses Ruin would be like a healer who only uses Cure/Physick/Benefic and nothing else. That's not playing out of the scope of your job.
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    Last edited by Mattelot; 07-04-2016 at 01:46 AM.

  9. #248
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    Mihael Blue
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    Tonberry
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    Summoner Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Mattelot View Post
    Mihael, me not wanting to DPS while I heal is my choice to make. I feel that I do just fine. There is a difference between being plain bad and choosing not to perform out of the scope of your role. If i just danced and let people die, that's one thing. Also, I read so much garbage "advice" on here. Those same people condescend if you don't agree.

    DE-Roxas, thast a bad comparison. A Smn who only uses Ruin would be like a healer who only uses Cure/Physick/Benefic and nothing else. That's not playing out of the scope of your job.
    Our choices are what defines us and that defines you as a player who is absolutely not even trying to attempt to pull their weight. The scope of your role is not just to sit and heal, I don't even know what you do in the down time between heals.

    I just hope you're stuck with other people who are wanting to play the game with the same attitude as yours and not with others who are trying to perform their optimal.
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  10. #249
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    Mattelot's Avatar
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    Mattelot Leviathan
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    Leviathan
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    What do I care about definition? Are you referring to how random people on the Internet will think of me? If you care about that, you need to rethink your priorities. I'm playing a video game and having fun.

    Yes, the scope of a healer is to keep the group alive. You're always welcome to toss in some DPS and I'm sure no one will complain but it is not required. Many feel the same. People can offer advice on how to optimize their role but flat-out telling people how to play is asinine, especially when I see so much bad advice going around.
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  11. 07-04-2016 02:21 AM

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    I still think it's not a good comparison. I don't know anyone nor have I ever seen anyone do what you described. That's quite a stretch.

    I have seen many Drks who do not use Darkside. I always do because I love Dark Arts. Some people are just not as good as you may be. No reason to get upset about it. When I play Ast, I still don't DPS and I keep everyone alive and always on top of cards. Unfortunately for Mihael, SE said they do not design content around healer DPS. Each person has their own play style. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean you have to follow suit.
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