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    Archaell's Avatar
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    Arch Idealist
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    The second half of your post doesn't make sense, I never suggested I am forcing my way on anyone. The thread is about people who refuse to play their class the way the game is intended to be played.
    Sorry for that, of course I meant the "general" you as an example.

    The game is intended to be played in positive environment. The better players help the less good players and such. The failure is that the perception isn't "better players should help the less good players to improve" but instead the community supports "the better players should carry the less good players". The fun of individuals being more important than fun of the group. My second half of the post was pointing out that the players who want to play the game "as it is intended" (in the sense you mean it) are at disadvantage because the ToS and even systems like leave penalties support the players who don't want to play it "as intended" (in the sense you mean it).

    Example:

    You get a person seeking carry in your group.

    1) You can vote kick them and fail at it while being kicked yourself = punishment
    2) You can vote kick them, fail at it and being stuck with the group = punishment
    3) You can vote kick them, fail at it and leave while getting the penalty = punishment
    4) You can try to advise the person, while probably getting shouted at for wasting even more time of another party member = punishment
    5) You can try to advise the person, while probably getting shouted at by someone who has to meet their daily white knight quota = punishment
    6) You can try to advise the person, while probably being ignored = as well "punishment"

    In most cases the person getting punished for the bad play is the person who is trying to deal with it instead of the one doing it.
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    Last edited by Archaell; 07-01-2016 at 09:43 AM.