wouldnt a token system for the 24 man raids be better?

[NorthernLadMSP]

I fully understand where the op and others are coming from who would like tokens for everything. Simply make it easier for them to get what they want.

No, you really don't.

For example, you and I both are dying to get our hands on the Weeping City healing chest. You got yours on your second run of the very first week the raid was available. I'm here, three weeks later, after many, many clears. I still don't have mine. Guess what, I've worked a lot harder than you did for said item, yet you're claiming I just want to be handed something.

[LaylaTsarra]

No, you really don't.

For example, you and I both are dying to get our hands on the Weeping City healing chest. You got yours on your second run of the very first week the raid was available. I'm here, three weeks later, after many, many clears. I still don't have mine. Guess what, I've worked a lot harder than you did for said item, yet you're claiming I just want to be handed something.

Oh I'd like the caster chest. I don't have it yet. So what I'll get it eventually. There are tons of other drops I can get there that my main and alternate roles can use.

Using the logic here I suppose i should get a token for a shaft everytime I run M4 too cause then I'd have a token for a token given my RNG based rolls won't hurt so much right? How many times does one have to run M4 to get that shaft? Some might run it once, others might run it 20 or 30 times. Guess what it's the same with a drop in Weeping City. The whole idea of dungeon content is to get people running it because they want something. They want it enough to run it over and over again. That isn't a bad thing.

[NorthernLadMSP]

I'm not saying it's bad to keep content alive. I'm completely disagreeing with your statement claiming people just want to be handed something for no effort.

[LaylaTsarra]

I'm not saying it's bad to keep content alive. I'm completely disagreeing with your statement claiming people just want to be handed something for no effort.

So you mean that wanting to get a token EVERY TIME YOU RUN SOMETHING is just fine. So then I can run Weeping City 5 times and get a token each time and then use those tokens to get WHATEVER DROP I WANT? You are trying to tell me that isn't being handed something for little effort. Sorry but I think that is a terrible idea and am opposed to it.

The OP even proposed running it once to get a token and then use that token to get whatever he wanted.

[Zojha]

You are trying to tell me that isn't being handed something for little effort. Sorry but I think that is a terrible idea and am opposed to it.

Meanwhile, you are perfectly fine with instantly getting whatever drop you want every time - provided you're lucky.
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At this point, you're downright hypocritical.

[LaylaTsarra]

Meanwhile, you are perfectly fine with instantly getting whatever drop you want every time - provided you're lucky.
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At this point, you're downright hypocritical.

You like calling people names don't you. I got that already – hypocritical, ignorant. I'm looking forward to what other gems you might have in store for me and I also thought you were done talking to me. Guess not huh.

Try praying to RNGenius. That might improve your luck.

[MagiusNecros]

So you mean that wanting to get a token EVERY TIME YOU RUN SOMETHING is just fine. So then I can run Weeping City 5 times and get a token each time and then use those tokens to get WHATEVER DROP I WANT? You are trying to tell me that isn't being handed something for little effort. Sorry but I think that is a terrible idea and am opposed to it.

The OP even proposed running it once to get a token and then use that token to get whatever he wanted.

Make it like Gordias and Midas Normal. Problem solved. This isn't hard. We aren't trying to summon Ramuh Egi here.

[NorthernLadMSP]

So you mean that wanting to get a token EVERY TIME YOU RUN SOMETHING is just fine. So then I can run Weeping City 5 times and get a token each time and then use those tokens to get WHATEVER DROP I WANT? You are trying to tell me that isn't being handed something for little effort. Sorry but I think that is a terrible idea and am opposed to it.

First of all, try calming it down a bit. You're getting pretty dramatic in your posts.

Second. I see nothing wrong with a system similar to EX primals - if in 10 wins your item hasn't dropped, you can go spend your tokens - and they could still keep the weekly lock out so people only get one piece of loot per week.

[MiniPrinny]

They could at least code a system that checks when a boss is killed and filters out all roles not present in the party. For example, if your party is DRK/WAR/WHM/WHM/MNK/MNK/NIN/BLM, you'd only get fending, healing, striking, scouting, and casting gear for the whole run assuming everyone stays.

[Kaizencorr]

Today was the first day I had to go into Weeping City more than once. Got it on my second try. Welcome to RNG101.