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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycloptichorn View Post
    You stated that you were doing: CON PGL PGL GLA Lv.21-24 fighting Lv.25-29 crabs.

    You could have been doing lvl. 29-34 of some other mob that is deadlier, if you want more of a challenge and more sp. But, I don't need to tell ya that, you already know it.



    Higher than myself. And I've had no problems at all with my lower chars. since the update, I have no idea why you seem to be unable to handle the sitch.

    Yes, for god's sake, when the going gets tough, you have to fight and hope you win. You seem to want great sp soloing with no chance of dying. That's weak sauce. You can't have both good SP and no risk, there has to be a tradeoff.

    Like I said above - the difference between a good player and an okay player, is that the good player will win those close matches 19/20 times, the okay player 12/20.
    You keep saying "you" as if I were the voice of the entire party. Though, I think I will do just that tomorrow and see how it works out. I will take a low-end party, say the majority Lv.20-22 and maybe a 25 to a camp with R30-35 mobs just so we can say "we did it, hurray" after each and every 5min fight. This is all rough speculation, you see. What is actually going to happen is 3 of those 30-35 mobs are going to link on us, almost instantly wiping the tank which is Lv22. You can see where this is going, right?

    What you negated to address is the probability that because of the link system, it will happen more than once, and given that you're not going to give up, many many more times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xoo View Post
    You keep saying "you" as if I were the voice of the entire party. Though, I think I will do just that tomorrow and see how it works out. I will take a low-end party, say the majority Lv.20-22 and maybe a 25 to a camp with R30-35 mobs just so we can say "we did it, hurray" after each and every 5min fight. This is all rough speculation, you see. What is actually going to happen is 3 of those 30-35 mobs are going to link on us, almost instantly wiping the tank which is Lv22. You can see where this is going, right?
    Oh, I can absolutely see where this is going - you'll continue bitching and moaning without ever admitting that a large part of the problem here is lack of skill on your part, combined with an unwillingness to take responsibility for the fact that your group is working mobs that aren't really a challenge for the pt.

    What you negated to address is the probability that because of the link system, it will happen more than once, and given that you're not going to give up, many many more times.
    Uh, that's because that isn't a BUG, it's a FEATURE. Other groups don't die when this happens.
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    We do sometimes. But we know that death is part of the game. And if there's no risk of death, it's not really fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nasomi View Post
    We do sometimes. But we know that death is part of the game. And if there's no risk of death, it's not really fun.
    Well, that's probably more accurate. And what more, death really carries much less of a consequence now that equipment has to go to zero before it loses stats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycloptichorn View Post
    Oh, I can absolutely see where this is going - you'll continue bitching and moaning without ever admitting that a large part of the problem here is lack of skill on your part, combined with an unwillingness to take responsibility for the fact that your group is working mobs that aren't really a challenge for the pt.



    Uh, that's because that isn't a BUG, it's a FEATURE. Other groups don't die when this happens.
    I'll argue the fact that I am a good and competent player with all the necessary skills to play effectively. Christ, the two classes in question I've already leveled to 50 almost equally through leves, party and solo. Yes, I am going to complain because I can and I retain that right.

    Secondly, in reference to your last paragraph, we're talking about solo play and not groups.
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    I miss xp loss. Death without consequence is not really a deterrence.
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    Well, of course you have the RIGHT to complain, but that doesn't make you RIGHT to complain.

    Just makes ya a complainer. Suck it up and learn to win... that's what I've done every time the going gets rough in this game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycloptichorn View Post
    Well, of course you have the RIGHT to complain, but that doesn't make you RIGHT to complain.

    Just makes ya a complainer. Suck it up and learn to win... that's what I've done every time the going gets rough in this game.
    My hero? >.>;
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    Quote Originally Posted by nasomi View Post
    Not entirely. I was blasting through mobs, MRD are DPS machines now, AND hate machines. I had to hold back to avoid taking hate from the tank. When I'd grab an add and hold it while the GLD, PUG, and ARC worked on the main mob, I'd kill mine in the time they killed theirs, if not faster, while not needing the CON to heal me. I dont' know if it was gear related or what, but I felt like a DPS monster. However I was using skills from every melee class as I have them all leveled to 10+ to get their basic skills.
    Burn and bleed baby.
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