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  1. #21
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    Aranie Crowley
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    Quote Originally Posted by loreleidiangelo View Post
    The problem is that you're assuming the tank role is the most difficult to perform optimally by default. There are quite a few people that would disagree with you.
    Not at all, tanking myself, i actually find it easier than DPS ^^" (but i'm a weird person, and a crappy DPS ^^")
    I just say that people usually don't want to tank because....well...because what ? i don't know, maybe responsabilities ?

    "Just trying to highlight that the most skilled player in a raid isn't necessarily the last guy standing, is all."
    Well, yes and...no ^^" most of the time ( i'm not saying all the time or everyone of course !) if you die, that means you messed something (AOE avoidance, mecanics, taking back aggro for example) thus, the last guy standing is kind of skilled no ? ^^"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watachy View Post
    C'était en fait SE qui survolait Ishgard sur une liasse de billets

    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    People don't know how to take criticism anymore, and bad play is rewarded with with a coddling mentality. Yes, this is a casual game for the most part - that doesn't mean people need to walk on eggshells in fear of getting reported for pointing out things. This whole 'please don't say anything even slightly negative' mentality that we seem to be going towards and the devs seemingly pushing towards it is creating a disturbing trend.

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    Or the last guy standing has a crap-ton of defense, mitigation, and self-heals to cover up any blunders. Plenty of tanks who "stood in the bad" are the last ones left alive in Weeping City because, well...they're tanks.
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  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by loreleidiangelo View Post
    Or the last guy standing has a crap-ton of defense, mitigation, and self-heals to cover up any blunders. Plenty of tanks who "stood in the bad" are the last ones left alive in Weeping City because, well...they're tanks.
    Just having them is not everything, you need to learn how to use them efficiently, so many tanks i saw not using a single defensing CD...sometimes they are even more fragile than some dps !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watachy View Post
    C'était en fait SE qui survolait Ishgard sur une liasse de billets

    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    People don't know how to take criticism anymore, and bad play is rewarded with with a coddling mentality. Yes, this is a casual game for the most part - that doesn't mean people need to walk on eggshells in fear of getting reported for pointing out things. This whole 'please don't say anything even slightly negative' mentality that we seem to be going towards and the devs seemingly pushing towards it is creating a disturbing trend.

  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celef View Post
    Just having them is not everything, you need to learn how to use them efficiently, so many tanks i saw not using a single defensing CD...sometimes they are even more fragile than some dps !
    My point isn't really about bad tanks or whatever, my point is that if it were a DPS in this same situation they'd be physically unable to salvage the raid, and no one would notice or care about their particularly exceptional skill.

    tl;dr good job to the WAR, but let's not pretend they'd have been capable if this if they were anything BUT a WAR.
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  5. #25
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    Gunsa Cabalabob
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    Yay more "WAR is the best tank" propaganda. We certainly haven't had enough of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilthas View Post
    The anonymity of the internet is what leads people to become jerks online.

    You could make a game where all you did was run through fields of flowers holding hands and you'd still get a guy telling you you're doing it wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mcshiggs View Post
    Everyone knows you skip through fields of flowers holding hands, running noobs need to go back to WoW.

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    Man Bearpig
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    This is easy as hell, honestly a warrior could solo this entire fight probably given ... 3 hours..
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    This isn't so much impressive as much as the boss is just really easy. Honestly think about it as long as you have decent gear and some HP regen/abilities this isn't exactly cookie worthy.
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  8. #28
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    Arawn Wymer
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    Quote Originally Posted by RLofOBFL View Post
    War does have more reliable self healing(storms path(3gcds)/inner beast(7 gcds)/equilibrium(60 sec)/bloodbath(90 sec/Pld can use too)) to keep itself alive but Clemency(2 seconds/2/5 of mp) is still better or at least equal to overall. And tbh I'm just being salty that it's another War video <.<
    Haha, dw I will make 7 PLD 1 sch Nid video soon. I did 7 pld seph ex kill 2 months ago, need to make PLD shine a bit more!
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    Brynhilda Skyforge
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    This is the reason why I tell every new player to go marauder/warrior for their first character. WARRIORS ARE A BEAST RAWWWR!


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    When you see someones glamour with non matching boots

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    Ritza Solair
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    Tanks are the last person standing by a "mechanical" need (1 of healer jobs is to keep them alive so the mob/s don't dmg them & DPS to 0hp) so a Tank being alive last happens more often (cept in derp-tank times dieing to 1-shot mechanics) I mean I almost did what that WAR did as PLD on my 1st time run of Weeping city... with only that fight as my info about boss mechanics (granted my run was from 3% & I died at 1 due to it being my 1st time fighting here so lack of skill with mechanic's killed me)

    Finding a WAR user skilled enouf to live & win in that senario is just as awsome as finding a PLD or DRK that can to, there Tanks DEF mitigation & "turtling" is in there job discription FF14 just gave them a way to "heal" in burst's... heck for a Tank doing that is "mentally" like fighting off a trainwreck in slow-mo, a "War of Attrition" if u will (pun intended for OP's case)
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    What some see as "distracted" is really "fathoming the unfathomable" - last words from an Ul'dahn Mercurial Chemister at the battle of Carteneau

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