Quote Originally Posted by Archaell View Post
Nothing is wrong with that. It is absolutely fine if you can do it without failing too much. The amount of pratice is of course subjective, some get it faster some later, the issue starts when the players join a training party for phase 4 while failing in phase 2 or 3 multiple times etc. They overestimate their experience making it frustrating for the rest of the party who actually might have practiced the previous phase 100 times before to get through it flawlessly, instead of joining phase 2-3 training, which would also help the players there to learn the phase coz they should have some practice in it already and could provide guidance.
I was mainly refering to this part:
“I got to the phase 5 once, so clearly I mastered all the previous phases!”
Really? I saw this attitude several times. People getting to the fang phase once and suddenly being too good for training the previous parts.
Like, I think there is nothing wrong with joining a p5 (Nidhogg) party even if you only reached it once, if the fails before that were not on you. When I was trying to clear Thordan EX, I had only reached the end once and still would have rather wanted to join clear parties, because I didn't mess up before that, my other party members did. It gets incredibly frustrating to die to the same bull again and again because you join parties for below your own progress level. Why should I keep wiping in a phase 2-3 (Nidhogg) training party if I have already made it to phase 5 without mess-ups?
If I actually end up failing during phase 1-4, you are free to kick me, as I obviously do not fulfill the requirements for this party.

Sorry, a bit heated about this topic as I know way too many people who ended up never clearing content at all because of their friendly mentality of "I should better gather more experience in the lower phases even though I already did them 100 times without fail".