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  1. #181
    Player Februs's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Februs Harrow
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ilenya View Post
    No reason for him being a dick, but did you explain to him how the add works?
    We did. Though, I don't know if he managed to read it. The chat box practically erupted with comments. The Drk said, quite simply, "the dragon has no enmity table." I said, "you have to dodge the claw," but both of those comments were quickly replaced with a series of healer complaints.The Astro, in particular, was up in arms. I got the impression that he had been through quite a few fail groups at this point, so he was probably frustrated with dps who can't seem to dodge anything. I understand that this bard had his own perspective on things, but, to be honest, I side with the Astro.

    I've seen LOT of fail groups in that trial myself (not including Extreme nightmares), and I'm still amazed at just how many players, dps in particular, can't do the basics of mechanics we've seen in dozens of other fights. @Drkdays is right on that. A good Dps should always strive for the flank or rear, and that's enforced in both toolkits and job quests. Ranged players have more flexibility than any others; so, there's really no excuse for not being able to do simple things that are taught in the earliest levels of each job.
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  2. #182
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    Ilenya's Avatar
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    Aurora Vlondett
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Februs View Post
    We did. Though, I don't know if he managed to read it. The chat box practically erupted with comments. The Drk said, quite simply, "the dragon has no enmity table." I said, "you have to dodge the claw," but both of those comments were quickly replaced with a series of healer complaints.The Astro, in particular, was up in arms. I got the impression that he had been through quite a few fail groups at this point, so he was probably frustrated with dps who can't seem to dodge anything. I understand that this bard had his own perspective on things, but, to be honest, I side with the Astro.

    I've seen LOT of fail groups in that trial myself (not including Extreme nightmares), and I'm still amazed at just how many players, dps in particular, can't do the basics of mechanics we've seen in dozens of other fights. @Drkdays is right on that. A good Dps should always strive for the flank or rear, and that's enforced in both toolkits and job quests. Ranged players have more flexibility than any others; so, there's really no excuse for not being able to do simple things that are taught in the earliest levels of each job.
    Fair enough. As someone who doesn't really have the full range of DPS 'rules' drilled into my head (I know some, since I SCH, but I base my positioning on healing, not DPS), I'm not fully used to dealing with it, but if things were explained and nothing seemed to come of it, I've really nothing else to add.
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  3. #183
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    Mattelot's Avatar
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    Mattelot Leviathan
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    Leviathan
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Iracy View Post
    *snip*
    I often find groups that have the 1 rogue player who likes to pull extras or while everyone else is fighting mob 1, they fight mob 2. It happened to me this morning when the Blm kept going ahead and pulling extras. It made my job a little more challenging but the dungeon ended with me getting 3 commendations. I really wasn't expecting that at all.
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  4. #184
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    Shadowfall's Avatar
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    Kayden Shadowfall
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 60
    Leveling paladin. lvl 40 running roulette cause why not.. get the manor for like 3rd time in row a..first pull I notice machinist has pulled entire hallway back,kill everything off..Healer immediately goes use flash to keep aggro...said I was but not gonna fight him for the mobs. Mech goes I was doing it for my tp.I just look at him is disbelief..... next pull he does the same....I multiflash and finally take aggro..he runs off down the hall and kills a maid...runs back with rest following him....kill mobs...healer..use ROH after every flash you are losing aggro on mobs when you don't....(had aggro entire mob even taking from mech)..... before I can respond he aggros the next mob....I said..have a nice run...and took my 30 min break
    The funny thing is on my main I have many things to 60...more to 50...and all classes ranked....but they look at the fact I have only paladin necessities on this character and assume I know nothing..
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  5. #185
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    Enkonda's Avatar
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    Gridinia
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    Character
    Otonashi Harui
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 60
    Mostly my fault, but I ended up doing Saint M instance and I was incredibly under geared. Though, the party, or at least the healer, was very understanding and noted that she'd try her best not to let me die. I just kept laughing as the ninja who had more hp than I and kept stealing aggro from things 'cause at that point, there wasn't much I could do except cover him. Though I did manage to keep things under control, for the most part, I was sweating by the end of the dungeon and ready to hightail it out of there. Won't do that again.
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    "With each passing day, the world finds new and exciting ways to kill a man."
    ―Balthier

  6. #186
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    Awful's Avatar
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    Awful Name
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Got a Saint M in 60 roulette the other day, said hello to everyone (Whm, Mch and Brd and they all said hey back was feeling good about this run even asked "hey do you mind if I go long?", healers and DPS said sure go for it. Pulled everything realized nothing is dying i'm thinking to myself huh nothing is dying while i'm cycling all my CDs with Living Dead being the last for my "OH SHI-" moment. Popped it no Benediction aaannd dead. Looked at the Bard no WM's, no Foe's for the Whm to Holy...Look at the Mch no GB or turret....Asked them both nicely to put them on and they just ignored me, needless to say I pulled short and sweet and even then we had 11 minutes left in DF. 11 minutes. I had to take a break I told them multiple times for GB/WM/Turret/DPS CDs/No DPS from the WHM it was stressful.
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  7. #187
    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Character
    Bastilaa Shan
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Found out the hard way that Yolo plunging toward a singularity reactor in Ozma fight is a bad idea.

    I....uh....death plunged off the platform.
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  8. #188
    Player Linx0r's Avatar
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    Character
    Natti Starshine
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 100
    More of a success story than horror..... But was OT in A8 and MT dc'd just as brawler and other add came out. Long story short I tanked BOTH adds and the next set of BOTH adds before he came back then said 'thanks for not kicking me.....I'll MT from here' . One of the healers said 'no damn way..... You OT and for the rest of the fight'. We did it, I got 7 comms an. FYI this was at ilvl 225
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  9. #189
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    Reptiletc's Avatar
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    Alzrius Nremyn
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    The Aurum Vale, I was DRK, had a MNK, BRD, and a freaking CNJ. Yes, a CNJ. The guy didn't know how to get his job crystal and thought he would just roll with it. (Guy was 54)

    The BRD kept running off and pulling mobs on his own and then telling me that's what he was taught to do.

    CNJ kept prioritizing healing the BRD and then himself. I was last on the list I guess.

    Everyone was synced except for the BRD, who was horribly under-geared (lvl 20 jewelry and some lvl 30 items)

    Wiped repeatedly, but made it to the last boss somehow before someone voted dismiss.

    The MNK did great.
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  10. #190
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    bounddreamer's Avatar
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    Character
    Talya Stormbreaker
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 70
    Loaded into Shiva for trial roulette. I examine the other tank as the new player views the cutscene.

    Me: a 233 DRK with melded Horde Guillotine, current melded progression gear.

    Him: a PLD in ~145 leveling gear.

    I'm already in grit when we load in. I turn darkside on as the healers buff the party. He turns on Shield Oath.

    As I'm headed for the boss and hitting it with my opener, he fires off a provoke which is utterly wasted as I move into the dark arts+power slash combo.

    He proceeds to provoke. Every. Single. Time. It comes off cool down. Which is kind of hilarious because the provoke animation is more obvious now, and again pointless because I have Shiva back in two global cooldowns.

    Ice soldiers spawn. He doesn't pick them up so I shrugged and grab them, too.

    He keeps doing Rage of Halone and provoke when he's got it. We finish killing Shiva and I finally say in chat, "spamming provoke doesn't make you a main tank, [name]." Bow, goodbye, exit.
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