35 Dur Specialist Recipe Rotations

[Ronivan]

Tested that rotation today, made 35 Adamantite Ingots, without any NQ, all perfect HQ. Although we are dealing with FFXIV rng, no rotation is perfect. Image bellow is a warning to everyone remember that:

[Roth_Trailfinder]

This is a big improvement, it'll prevent the PbPs failing & increases the possible quality from 12707 to 14550 (increase of 1843).

I'm not so sure that you need the Ingenuity 2 there. It depends upon how much Progress a CS2 gets you, I suppose. The two PbP and the 7 FS's get you to 1070, the point I generally aim for under this rotation. The following 3 FS's I allot for Tricks or just fails, but since you're using them, they cover about one CS2 of progress (I was getting 120something, depending upon food, prior to this patch). So you are at 1190 Progress, needing 246, or 123 Progress for each of your two CS2's.

Aren't you getting that much? Or is it there to cover for any failed FS's?

Personally, and this is a matter of taste, I figure upon losing up to 3 MaMa charges on failed FS or Tricks. Those Tricks let me take Precise Touches when possible, or Basic Touches should no Good/Excellent pop up. However, that means I use one more CS2, as well. So my rotation, right after the last FS to the MM2, is this : IQ, CS2, CS2, SH2, WN, HT, HT, HT, HT. I get one less HT, but I am able to turn more into BT/PT. I don't have Ingenuity 2 set when making these things.

[tayler1480]

I'm not so sure that you need the Ingenuity 2 there.

Ingenuity also increases quality. Since I'm lvl 60. All 1* lvl 60 crafts or higher will be affected by ingenuity 2 for quality. If you want to test this, I'd say test it on e.g. sewing thread.



When used on just the 1 basic touch the progress increase doesn't seem like it helps much but it has a big impact when used on e.g. a byregot's finisher to a craft.

If you compare the below rotation (same as original but missing ingenuity 2), based on the simulator you can see it increased quality by 1676.

[Roth_Trailfinder]

You're blowing well past the Quality necessary, as well. I know - BB does that. Still does not appear you need the Ing 2 there. You should be able to convert that CP to one BT/PT, and an Observe if you really want the fishing step.

[tayler1480]

You're blowing well past the Quality necessary, as well. I know - BB does that. Still does not appear you need the Ing 2 there. You should be able to convert that CP to one BT/PT, and an Observe if you really want the fishing step.

My rotation: With ingenuity 2

- you need 3 flawless synthesis fails before the craft fails.
- can still miss 3 hasty touches & still 100% hq the craft.

Your rotation: If you remove the ingenuity 2 & replace a hasty touch with a basic touch

- 1 flawless synthesis fails then the craft fails
- missing 3 hasty touches will give you a 88% chance of hq
- lets say that 1 BT means you miss only 2 hasty touches then you hq at 100% but you still have the problem with failing the craft if 1 flawless synthesis fails


If you're seeing it from a different perspective could you please clarify since if your reasoning is reasonable then it could help me in future rotations/macros.

[Cleanse]

Roth remember the sim is buggy with higher level crafts and Ing/Ing2.

[tayler1480]

For 2* lvl 60 crafts, Ing2 isn't buggy. It's only Ing1.