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    I know I'm real late to this party but I've always wondered how Edda got so powerful. After all, the player character is only non-Padjal white mage and Edda was initially shown as a lackluster conjurer.

    If she was a necromancer, where does that fall within the current breakdown of magic users? An offshoot of black mages?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacho_Nacho View Post
    I know I'm real late to this party but I've always wondered how Edda got so powerful. After all, the player character is only non-Padjal white mage and Edda was initially shown as a lackluster conjurer.

    If she was a necromancer, where does that fall within the current breakdown of magic users? An offshoot of black mages?
    If I'm not mistaken, necromancy is actually a form of void magic that involves binding a voidsent within a corpse. If anything Black Mage and Necromancer would both be offshoots of the original Mhachi Void Mage.

    I would argue though that Edda didn't actually become very powerful at all. In Tam-Tara HM we only ever fought the voidsent, never Edda herself. She only became a threat because of the sheer number of voidsent she was letting loose through her attempts to reanimate Avere. She got good at opening void gates, that's all. Though it still begs the question of where she learned to do that...
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    This makes me so happy!

    Also, I want an Avere Minion!

    ... and her outfit...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alberel View Post
    If I'm not mistaken, necromancy is actually a form of void magic that involves binding a voidsent within a corpse. If anything Black Mage and Necromancer would both be offshoots of the original Mhachi Void Mage.

    I would argue though that Edda didn't actually become very powerful at all. In Tam-Tara HM we only ever fought the voidsent, never Edda herself. She only became a threat because of the sheer number of voidsent she was letting loose through her attempts to reanimate Avere. She got good at opening void gates, that's all. Though it still begs the question of where she learned to do that...
    Simple... Ascians. It fits their MO and lets face it, it's becoming the 'go to' plot idea now in Eorzea for when things going horribly wrong. Although I can understand and definitely sympathize that grief makes you do silly things... the last time we see her before the whole Tam-Tara HM quest is she promises us that she would "return to her hometown and begin her training (as an adventurer and CNJ) anew", in other words, trying to be a better healer as it was what cost Avare his life in the first place, her lackluster healing skill.

    So for her to do a complete 360 into practicing necromancy and summoning undead and voidsent to bring Avare back to life... something seems off about this whole situation. And we already know the Ascians appear to the downtrodden and outcasts of society with promises of making that person more powerful. It's a good a guess as any.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    So for her to do a complete 360 into practicing necromancy and summoning undead and voidsent to bring Avare back to life... something seems off about this whole situation. And we already know the Ascians appear to the downtrodden and outcasts of society with promises of making that person more powerful. It's a good a guess as any.
    I hope this dosen't lead to something like "OMG Avere is totally a primal gais", frankly having a Primal be a mere dungeon boss, even retroactively seems a little disappointing
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    Edda is back in Deep Dungeon! No one can deny, it must be Edda! Even her little pet look like the small version of Tam Tara HMs last Boss.




    I m pretty excited! My favorite storyline continues! : D
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    So for her to do a complete 360 into practicing necromancy and summoning undead and voidsent to bring Avare back to life... something seems off about this whole situation. And we already know the Ascians appear to the downtrodden and outcasts of society with promises of making that person more powerful. It's a good a guess as any.
    I kinda want to go search for the (extremely) old conversations about Edda when Tam Tara Hard came out...but I'm no necromancer

    Was something about how she accidentally summoned a voidsent (think maybe trying to call on an elemental or such) and then things went downhill from there...
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    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    I kinda want to go search for the (extremely) old conversations about Edda when Tam Tara Hard came out...but I'm no necromancer

    Was something about how she accidentally summoned a voidsent (think maybe trying to call on an elemental or such) and then things went downhill from there...
    Well, I went back through my old screenshots and finally found my screenshots from my first Tam Tara HM run, including all the 'torn folios' throughout... and... there doesn't seem to be any mention about when or how Edda first began her slide into insanity... only that it was her last meeting with us that set off that initial 'spark' in her to try to bring Avare back to life, and that it appears she succeeded in summoning the voidsent into Avare's mummified head an indeterminate amount of time before Tam-Tara-HM occurred.

    But as for where she got the ability... is still unclear. Either way, I'm sure we'll eventually find that out in the Palace of the Dead (or in the upcoming Lorebook too for that matter).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacho_Nacho View Post
    I know I'm real late to this party but I've always wondered how Edda got so powerful. After all, the player character is only non-Padjal white mage and Edda was initially shown as a lackluster conjurer.

    If she was a necromancer, where does that fall within the current breakdown of magic users? An offshoot of black mages?
    It can be assumed that she delved into the dark arts with an obsession borne of madness, studying night and day without sleep while searching for a way to restore Avere. She may also have gotten lucky, and stumbled upon a cash of daemonic tomes or something which provided a shortcut to power. She may even have managed to get in contact with some greater Voidsent who was only too happy to empower her, knowing the chaos she'd eventually unleash. There are many possible explanations for her quick rise to power. In fact, shortcuts to great power is pretty much the hallmark of evil to begin with.
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