Feast (Light Party) and Boosting

[Atreus]

It's interesting that your direct response to me focused so much on Botting when it was such a small part of mine, suggesting the behavior was botlike, even performing worse than a bot could. Very interesting.

Final point unless something substantial arises, because you're just talking in circles with your alibis:

So you tell us that your first team attempted to play us (if you can call that an attempt), and lost terribly. You then say that your second team threw the match believing they wouldn't win. So you're telling us your second team consciously knew they were the inferior team and did not want to bother trying? You admitted that you arranged it as such that team 2 was predetermined to lose. You know what that is? Boosting. Have a good day.

[Fayie]

Count me in for light party queue around this time on Balmung

If you need a healer count me in too!!

This. Let SE investigate the matches and let them decide. Don't accuse us of botting and and boosting/win-trading when all you have are pictures of statistics without match numbers. Like I said, if we really moved so bot-like you'd have recorded it

SE have already said that they do not accept screenshots or videos as evidence. Dunno what you're trying to say, apart from attempting to cover your ass. The issues are not about bot usage, but boosting. Don't try and change the subject cause it isn't working.

[Szaveth]

So Szaveth ,you claimed you're organizing games due to the inactivity in the queue, which IS against the rules. Yet when you get matched against any team other than your inner circle all of a sudden your story changes to "your ping is too high" to play anyone legitimate. So which is it. Because you're contradicting yourself all over this thread.

Please read my first posts. I gave a list of reasons why we organized, not a singular one like you're suggesting. When I retouch on a reason its obviously to make a point. And if you read on I explained that I know they gave it a shot regardless of the ping issues. You're insinuating that my team was illegitimate, but my team was no less legitimate than any other team but the majority of us have crappy ping.

[Szaveth]

Running as in throwing the match (afk in the middle) and leaving the game before even attempting to fight, followed by ceasing to queue. Screenshots, reports, blatant boosted point gain, and your own admittance is more than enough evidence. So AST like Atlantic standard time so EST. Can definitely get some friends to queue during that time. Let's play.

No one was afk, and ceasing to queue is not against the rules. Boosting, as defined by the original poster, is "...the practice of acquiring rating or points in a way that is unsportsmanlike or simply illegal...". When SE checks the logs they will see that nothing was unsportsmanlike or illegal. And no, not Atlantic standard, AST Arabian standard time.

[Nakanishi]

Please read my first posts. I gave a list of reasons why we organized, not a singular one like you're suggesting. When I retouch on a reason its obviously to make a point. And if you read on I explained that I know they gave it a shot regardless of the ping issues. You're insinuating that my team was illegitimate, but my team was no less legitimate than any other team but the majority of us have crappy ping.

So, are you going to completely ignore all the post asking when you guys want to get some legit games in? Or, are you going to continue to just afk in the middle and accept defeat without putting up any sort of a fight. If anything, your horrible ping would put you at an advantage, allowing you to be in areas that us with decent ping's client wouldn't update until you're well out of range. Stop using that horrible "excuse" (highly doubt it's even true) of bad ping.

No one was afk, and ceasing to queue is not against the rules. Boosting, as defined by the original poster, is "...the practice of acquiring rating or points in a way that is unsportsmanlike or simply illegal...". When SE checks the logs they will see that nothing was unsportsmanlike or illegal. And no, not Atlantic standard, AST Arabian standard time.

I didn't say "ceasing to queue" was against the rules, I said it is considered "running" what is what you did.

So 6am EDT - 1pm EDT. Still doable, when do you want to play?

[Szaveth]

In response to Atreus:

I'm guessing no one read or retained my original posts. If you re-read my original posts, I defended us against your initial slander, and accusations of win-trading and boosting and explaining our general situations. You then posted calling us bots, again, so now I've responded to that accusation. And yes, as I said in the original posts, yet again, one of the tanks was playing extremely well, don't you remember?

"... that guy is the one that I explained lives in the states and doesn't have the ping issues the rest of us experience..."

Feel free to read that post again to get the rest of the context of that post; pg2
Is there something against the rules about knowing your team is the underdog? No, but at least we know all but one of us are on equal grounds ping-wise and experience the same amount of unresponsiveness.

[Titor]

No, but at least we know all but one of us are on equal grounds ping-wise and experience the same amount of unresponsiveness.

You clearly over-anticipate the service of Comcast/Level 3 in the US. 1-5 second lag spikes are not uncommon, or the favored 90k.

[Szaveth]

If you need a healer count me in too!!



SE have already said that they do not accept screenshots or videos as evidence. Dunno what you're trying to say, apart from attempting to cover your ass. The issues are not about bot usage, but boosting. Don't try and change the subject cause it isn't working.

I did not know that they didn't accept it as evidence. Regardless, screenshots were still posted. Why wasn't a video?
I'm merely defending myself and the others, as any innocent person would. And no, I'm not changing a subject, I'm addressing all points and/or accusations that have been made.

[Szaveth]

So, are you going to completely ignore...

No, I'm not ignoring you. I'm just first addressing what is more important, and there are a lot of posts
And I can only speak for myself right now, but I would absolutely be open to that; and our games are already legitimate. You are incorrect about the ping issue. It is absolutely a disadvantage; ts is slow and buggy, you press keys and it takes the game forever to recognize, medals take longer to appear on the ground, dps spikes are way harder to respond to... As I've said before our schedules don't line up often, so don't expect a queue tomorrow.

But wait, aren't some of you claiming that this kind of organization of matches is cheating? So when we organized, its wrong, but now that you want to its okay? That could be perceived as a little hypocritical, don't you think?

[Szaveth]

You clearly over-anticipate the service of Comcast/Level 3 in the US. 1-5 second lag spikes are not uncommon, or the favored 90k.

lag spikes are different than a consistent ping deficiency