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    Eul's Avatar
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    How AST will handles Nidhogg's Akh Morn?

    So yesterday I cleared with good party and I noticed WHM at Akh Morn keep spamming Cure 3 that burst their MP so much. This makes me thinking for AST that don't really have ability like Cure 3. So for you who main AST and doing Nidhogg EX, how you handle this situation?
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    Kipp Kaida
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    If in diurnal, et those regens up before he starts casting. He follows a strict order. When everyone gathers up, I quickly popped Collective Unconscious to get that strong regen up and then used Helios.

    If in nocturnal, I get shields up first, Collective Unconscious before damage goes out, then I start using Helios.

    If you can't get regens up and other healer is low on MP or they aren't healing much, lightspeed works really great here. Let's you get those heals out fast. The other healer I had with me, he was overhealing all the beginning of the fight so I had to basically heal during those phases the best I could with his little healing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadRiser View Post
    If in diurnal, et those regens up before he starts casting. He follows a strict order. When everyone gathers up, I quickly popped Collective Unconscious to get that strong regen up and then used Helios.

    If in nocturnal, I get shields up first, Collective Unconscious before damage goes out, then I start using Helios.

    If you can't get regens up and other healer is low on MP or they aren't healing much, lightspeed works really great here. Let's you get those heals out fast. The other healer I had with me, he was overhealing all the beginning of the fight so I had to basically heal during those phases the best I could with his little healing.
    Pretty much this +synastry and disable.
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    Akihiko Hoshie
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    I would say while the whm is killing himself cure 3 spamming

    The AST will pop CU + synastrie and helios a few time
    And lightspeed the next one (reduce mana cost and instant heal... who's against that ?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekotee View Post
    I would say while the whm is killing himself cure 3 spamming
    When a WHM is running out of MP, he does waste alot of mana at other points of the fight or isn't using Shrout and Assise enough. I do always cure 3 though Ankh Morn and ran only one time out of MP. And this one time was rigth before the kill and I had to rezz more than 2 people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eul View Post
    I noticed WHM at Akh Morn keep spamming Cure 3 that burst their MP so much
    Tbh the purpose of Cure 3 is not to spam AOE heal. It helps to replace spamming Medica for 1 Cure3 or something like that. If you time it right you shouldn't have to spam Cure 3 during Akh Morn, 1 for the first one and around 2 for the second one. Med2 + Asylum (for one of them) should be up anyway. But it also depends what is the other healer doing (shields, virus/disable etc). Of course in term of solo healing you might end up spamming Cure 3. But at least watch the HP of your team. I always see some WHM casting it too early and overhealing for the most part, certainly cause they think the damage are gonna be so huge from the very first hit.
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    Don't forget AoE bole if you have it available at the time that + synasty + CU + aspected Helios should cover it.
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    I don't understand why anyone would think AST would have any sort of problem.
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    Saseal Korei
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    If I'm in diurnal with a SCH co-healer - aspected Helios (if I can) before he starts + Disable on Nidd - between the SCH spamming succor and my spamming helios, it usually turns out okay and I haven't had to use LS once I got a feel for the safe thresh hold.

    If with WHM co-healer using Cure III, and I'm in Noct - aspected Helios + Disable... and then just helios without LS covers it. I could probably just get away with one or two aspected helios and let the Cure III's potency do the main work.

    If co-healer is down and theres no time to raise at that point, it's Aspected helios + Disable + lightspeed + helios spam.....
    ....and SC'ed helios after second helios cast if my Lightspeed is down by the second round and still no co-healer available - or they're dead again (....it's happened). But no guarantees on that one.

    Disable tends to *just* be back up by the time Akh Morn rolls around, every time.
    (Disable also works to just *barely* survive Seph EX's jumps with noct shields and disable, if the OT isn't there to help soak with healers. I learned this last night :x)
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    Last edited by Saseal; 06-15-2016 at 01:30 AM.

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    Its almost sad that during the second ahk morn, with everyone preshielded with a succor and sacred soil, I can 100% DPS. Cure III too stronk. I cry inside as I DPS through one of the highest HPS checks in game. (Only a little, cuz lol numbers.)
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    Last edited by Rawrz; 06-15-2016 at 01:33 AM.

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