Report All the people Selling AND Buying houses in PF

[StouterTaru]

You are just like an Ul'dahn Lalafell...always thinking of the profit.

I said long ago that reverse auction prices should be starting at about 5-10x what they are now, while still dropping to the same minimum to eliminate flipping. That was the idea of the reverse auction, and it was a good one. With the stupid low prices and gil in circulation, they might as well have a fixed price.

What I'm doing is calling out the angry villagers with torches and pitchforks for being misguided in their anger. The roof has a hole in it, so they want to start with replacing the furniture that has water damage.

[MomomiMomi]

And you seem to like antagonizing in this thread. I didn't want a house. The FC I am in however did. The matter of the fact is, they are spoiling the game, intentional or not. The effect is the same.

He's not antagonizing though. Not his fault that people are meeting his posts with emotional responses.

The system is broken. This is SE's fault. They have a means to fix it and they don't use it. Be mad at people reselling all you want, it's not going to fix the broken system.

You're barking up the wrong tree.

[Snugglebutt]

I said long ago that reverse auction prices should be starting at about 5-10x what they are now, while still dropping to the same minimum to eliminate flipping...

It is not set at the minimum price by SE, it is set by SE as the maximum price people should have to pay. SE offer relinquish where you get no refund and reclamation after 45 days where get 80% back when the feature is restarted, house flippers break the rules by buying at the maximum price SE set on a very limited supply then reselling for extortionately more than that maximum price by proxy screwing people over and locking out anyone who saved up enough to match what SE said they would have to pay.

All other item selling in this game does not fall into the same situation as plots. NPC item buying and reselling for higher is not against the rules because those items are infinite and anyone can just buy from the NPC instead at the original price, SE sets the minimum price for selling those only aka what an NPC would pay for it. All gathering/crafting and dropped loot is infinite also if willing to put in time and effort farming them so can be sold at whatever price you want and again SE set a minimum price which is again what an NPC would pay for it. Event items are limited but only if the event never comes around again and SE set a minimum price on them if not already market prohibited. Plots on the other hand are both limited and have a maximum price as opposed to a unlimited or with a minimum price set by SE.

[MomomiMomi]

It is not set at the minimum price by SE, it is set by SE as the maximum price people should have to pay. SE offer relinquish where you get no refund and reclamation after 45 days where get 80% back, house flippers break the rules by buying at the maximum price SE set then reselling for extortionately more than that maximum price by proxy screwing people over and locking out anyone who saved up enough to match what SE said they would have to pay.

Why should people be limited in how much they can pay for a house? if they want to spend 200 million gil on a house, SE should let them. That's more gil out of the system, which is a benefit to everyone.

[Snugglebutt]

Why should people be limited in how much they can pay for a house? if they want to spend 200 million gil on a house, SE should let them. That's more gil out of the system, which is a benefit to everyone.

Find me one person who 'wants' to pay 200 million gil for a house when SE set the maximum price way below that. Only a complete idiot or a liar would admit wanting to do that. It is not that same as saying someone 'wants' to invest 200 million gil on housing items for that house. SE set the maximum price people are expected to pay for a plot, everything else they do not mind peoples selling for whatever they want SE set a minimum price for it. Stop trying to justify a morally bankrupt ripping off of other people which also goes against the intended purpose of the feature. SE gives you the official option of relinquish or reclamation, those are the intended ways to handle it of which they want you to lose your investment if chose to relinquish but will refund partially from reclamation which is the way they remove the gil from the system as you put it.

[MomomiMomi]

Find me one person who 'wants' to pay 200 million gil for a house when SE set the maximum price way below that. Only a complete idiot or a liar would admit wanting to do that. It is not that same as saying someone 'wants' to invest 200 million gil on housing items for that house. SE set the maximum price people are expected to pay for a plot, everything else they do not mind peoples selling for whatever they want SE set a minimum price for it.

Show me where I said "when SE set the maximum price." I, and StouterTaru, are saying that the maximum price that SE has set is far too low. This is what needs to be changed to fix the problem.

When SE has changed the maximum price above 200 million, I will show you people who want to spend 200 million gil. They're all cluttered on Balmung and Gilgamesh, and they will gladly pay that price to beat the competition.

[Vivaea]

I haven't read this whole thread - but I have lately been reporting people who are selling the new houses on pf for extortionate prices. They keep popping up, so I don't think SE cares to be honest, least not on Cerberus.

[Avera]

Show me where I said "when SE set the maximum price." I, and StouterTaru, are saying that the maximum price that SE has set is far too low. This is what needs to be changed to fix the problem.

When SE has changed the maximum price above 200 million, I will show you people who want to spend 200 million gil. They're all cluttered on Balmung and Gilgamesh, and they will gladly pay that price to beat the competition.

and not all of us are filthy rich, so we shouldn't be allowed to buy a house within something a little more reasonable of a price?

[Snugglebutt]

Show me where I said "when SE set the maximum price." I, and StouterTaru, are saying that the maximum price that SE has set is far too low. This is what needs to be changed to fix the problem.

When SE has changed the maximum price above 200 million, I will show you people who want to spend 200 million gil. They're all cluttered on Balmung and Gilgamesh, and they will pay that price to beat the competition.

The maximum price is however not above 200 million so your response of 'why should SE stop people who want to pay 200 million for a plot' is still just as ridiculous in the context of what I said above. SE set the maximum price already and flippers are the ones who buy at that maximum price then screw over everyone else by raising the price by ten times or more the maximum set by SE...no one with an ounce of common sense wants to spend 200 million for it if they do not have to and SE says they should not have to by allocating a maximum price already on plots that is way below that.

Why are people annoyed at house flippers? Maybe because house flippers screw people over on a very limited supply feature which SE have already set a maximum price people are expected to pay for it...it is the house flippers who force anyone who wants a plot to pay such stupid amounts more than SE told people they would need to spend and anyone who not only supports that morally bankrupt action but also 'wants' that is either a house flipper themselves, an idiot or a jerk in my opinion. Let me make this clear for you, SE did not set a minimum price for plots...they set a 'maximum' and house flippers buy it at that maximum price SE said people have to pay then raise it far beyond that for personal greed.

People who flip houses by buying at SE's chosen maximum price which SE says people should have to pay then raising by extortionate amounts should have their houses taken from them, given no refund at all and then SE puts the plot back on the market at the original maximum price they set already. You mentioned desiring a bigger gil sink? Then support SE stripping flippers of their houses and giving no refunds to them.

[MomomiMomi]

and not all of us are filthy rich, so we shouldn't be allowed to buy a house within something a little more reasonable of a price?

How many people do you think would be capable of spending so much on a house? It won't be too many. As those people get taken out of demand, the price will drop.