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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by Faltrask View Post
    Just because the system is a failure it doesn't mean that you have the right to exploit it.
    Exactly. It just worsens the situation, which is as bad as it could possibly be already.

    I'd rather have no housing system than the housing system in place.
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  2. #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by StouterTaru View Post
    That's where the blame lies now. House flipping is not the problem, it's a symptom of the problem (not enough housing to meet demand).

    If the real problem didn't exist, neither would the symptom.
    House flippers are exploiting the situation and they are as much to blame, stopping people who would have used the plot rather than sell it on for ridiculous amounts of gil.

    Yes if legit people brought the plots there would still be an issue, but like I said, you wouldn't have the damn resellers flaunting the fact they are just greedy sods.
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  3. #63
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    This System needs to be changed. In the meanwhile they could simply avoid the House Flipping by placing a delay between the plot relinquish and the chance to buy the plot. For example there could be a day or 2 of delay with some kind of "House Finder" Feature to see which houses are gonna be avaiable and when. This way nobody would pay someone to sell a plot which they can't possibly get 100%.

    However, House flipping isn't the only problem, there is high demand, and SE can't possibly provide further Wards to cover all the houses demands. Honestly I have absolutely no clue how these wards works, so I wouldn't be able to sort a good solution for this.
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  4. #64
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    Oh and btw, this is an interesting video someone posted on facebook page, about the house crisis, this lucky guy was one of the first to log in and reporting what happened the first 15 minutes after server log in.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2q7dlGBJPc
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  5. #65
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    Quote Originally Posted by Faltrask View Post
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    When your emotional argument meets common sense, you respond with name calling.

    Quote Originally Posted by Faltrask View Post
    This System needs to be changed. In the meanwhile they could simply avoid the House Flipping by placing a delay between the plot relinquish and the chance to buy the plot.
    That's what it comes down to. You can round up the villagers with their pitchforks and torches to go after the profiteers, but that won't solve the actual issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elodie-kitteh View Post
    Yes if legit people brought the plots there would still be an issue, but like I said, you wouldn't have the damn resellers flaunting the fact they are just greedy sods.
    And this is what this whole thread comes down to; jealousy.
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  6. #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by StouterTaru View Post
    And this is what this whole thread comes down to; jealousy.
    You call it jealousy, I call it people deliberately spoiling the game for others and preventing them from accessing content they are paying for.
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  7. #67
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    You're just stomping your feet and throwing a tantrum since the first post. You didn't get your way, and you think that someone else being punished will make up for it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Elodie-kitteh View Post
    You call it jealousy, I call it people deliberately spoiling the game for others and preventing them from accessing content they are paying for.
    They aren't flipping with the intention of spoiling the game for you or others. They're flipping with the intention of making gil. In the process, one person's experience is "spoiled" while another's is enhanced.

    You see the same think irl every time a new game system or piece of iJunk is released. The item sells out, and someone that bought one makes money selling it online for a substantial profit. Those people aren't doing it to stick it to the people that want to enjoy the new gadget.
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    Last edited by StouterTaru; 06-11-2016 at 12:40 AM.

  8. #68
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    Personally, I love the limitation on housing and seeing the frantic Walmart stampede. If you were able to snatch up multiple houses like several friends and I were then you would know that you can easily purchase 2 to 3 houses before they are sold out. Just set up an alarm 30min b4 schedule server time and hangout in ts or mumble. What SE should do is create a legit house trading system. The reason why buyers spend so much is because resellers can only relinquish the plot unless it is an fc house. Also housing is not meant to be personal in the 1st place it was for guilds only. The player base got greedy and here we are
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  9. #69
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    Kitsumi Che'mogg
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    Quote Originally Posted by StouterTaru View Post
    You're just stomping your feet and throwing a tantrum since the first post. You didn't get your way, and you think that someone else being punished will make up for it.

    They aren't flipping with the intention of spoiling the game for you or others. They're flipping with the intention of making gil. In the process, one person's experience is "spoiled" while another's is enhanced.

    You see the same think irl every time a new game system or piece of iJunk is released. The item sells out, and someone that bought one makes money selling it online for a substantial profit. Those people aren't doing it to stick it to the people that want to enjoy the new gadget.
    You are just like an Ul'dahn Lalafell...always thinking of the profit.
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  10. #70
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    Quote Originally Posted by StouterTaru View Post
    You're just stomping your feet and throwing a tantrum since the first post. You didn't get your way, and you think that someone else being punished will make up for it.
    They aren't flipping with the intention of spoiling the game for you or others.
    And you seem to like antagonizing in this thread. I didn't want a house. The FC I am in however did. The matter of the fact is, they are spoiling the game, intentional or not. The effect is the same.
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