So, when can FCs actually have their chance at housing...

[Deceptistar]

Maybe if they up the price to what it used to be lol >.>
when housing came out a few years ago, our FC bought a medium.
.... for 200m or so. =[

if its that expensive pple wont buy them up so much >.>

[Avera]

Maybe if they up the price to what it used to be lol >.>
when housing came out a few years ago, our FC bought a medium.
.... for 200m or so. =[

if its that expensive pple wont buy them up so much >.>

Uhm...it also makes houses even more inaccessible for those of us who aren't filthy rich :T

[Deceptistar]

Uhm...it also makes houses even more inaccessible for those of us who aren't filthy rich :T

non of us were filthy rich back then too :x
it just took a long long time and dedication

[Zelas]

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First, no one is calling any specific person greedy. You can't blame people making a general statement in order to make a point for making you feel all gloomy because you decided to take it personally.

As for housing, you've got it backwards. SE first introduced FC Housing. Then people asked for a personal space, so they added personal rooms in FC homes so they could have a personal place to decorate. Then, when that also wasn't enough, people started asking for private housing, and the mess we have now came to be.

That's kind of the point I'm trying to make; Personal housing was implemented in an obvious rush to try and please players. They should have thought it through and worked on their infrastructure first, and then, as you said, introduced an instanced housing system for personal housing. They probably didn't because people wanted it NOW, and they knew it would take a long time before they could rework the servers (they still haven't done it...and it might be another year before they actually do).

Wards are entirely unnecessary for private housing; people don't want them for the neighborhood, most of the time. They want a house to decorate, and a garden to tend. Wards are great for Free Companies, but individuals are not at their house often enough to have a need for a neighborhood.

Again, no one's blaming house owners (at least, I'm not?). I'm more frustrated at the player base demanding things and leading to this mess in the first place. That's still far from blame, though. The only ones responsible for this mess are those who implemented it. And are keeping it that way despite knowing about it. And they'll be losing people over this, which is ironic, considering that means even less money for them to do what they should have done a long time ago, now. Hopefully, they'll learn.

[Zyama]

"First, no one is calling any specific person greedy. You can't blame people making a general statement in order to make a point for making you feel all gloomy because you decided to take it personally.

As for housing, you've got it backwards. SE first introduced FC Housing. Then people asked for a personal space, so they added personal rooms in FC homes so they could have a personal place to decorate. Then, when that also wasn't enough, people started asking for private housing, and the mess we have now came to be.

That's kind of the point I'm trying to make; Personal housing was implemented in an obvious rush to try and please players. They should have thought it through and worked on their infrastructure first, and then, as you said, introduced an instanced housing system for personal housing. They probably didn't because people wanted it NOW, and they knew it would take a long time before they could rework the servers (they still haven't done it...and it might be another year before they actually do).

Wards are entirely unnecessary for private housing; people don't want them for the neighborhood, most of the time. They want a house to decorate, and a garden to tend. Wards are great for Free Companies, but individuals are not at their house often enough to have a need for a neighborhood.

Again, no one's blaming house owners (at least, I'm not?). I'm more frustrated at the player base demanding things and leading to this mess in the first place. That's still far from blame, though. The only ones responsible for this mess are those who implemented it. And are keeping it that way despite knowing about it. And they'll be losing people over this, which is ironic, considering that means even less money for them to do what they should have done a long time ago, now. Hopefully, they'll learn." ~ Zelas


What Zelas said.

[tobyx]

The solution is not to raise the prices again. The real fault here is that Square Enix is not being able to add enough housing for every subscriber who wants a house to get one. There should be no such restriction.

It's a real shame that paying subscribers are not allowed to buy houses anymore on most of the servers. It baffles me that they couldn't know how high the demand was. I seriously think those 3 new wards would be enough. And now it will be another year for more housing to be added. This is a real game-breaker. Housing is not just cosmetics. I want a house for my FC.

[Zyama]

The solution is not to raise the prices again. The real fault here is that Square Enix is not being able to add enough housing for every subscriber who wants a house to get one. There should be no such restriction.

It's a real shame that paying subscribers are not allowed to buy houses anymore on most of the servers. It baffles me that they couldn't know how high the demand was. I seriously think those 3 new wards would be enough. And now it will be another year for more housing to be added. This is a real game-breaker. Housing is not just cosmetics. I want a house for my FC.

Me too, being the leader of a free company and not being able to offer them a place of their own sucks. I feel like I totally let them down.

[Galborion]

It's a real shame that paying subscribers are not allowed to buy houses anymore on most of the servers.

I myself was lucky enough to get a house this time, but I completely agree with you. Feature like this should not be dependent on how fast your connection is/how lucky you are on system crashes.

PS: Just a technical note, they added 4 wards, not 3 (9, 10, 11, 12).

[CuteWhisper]

I'm really sorry for your FC. I also think that FCs should own the main ward, and that FCs should be a priority. But there are players that aren't satisfied with a tiny room. Some of us really like customizing stuff and aren't that much social. There are people that want some customizable space for RP purposes and things like that. The system is broken, yes. But acting like the personal housing system is a mistake and greedy isn't cool.

Im sorry but I wanted a small house for a lot of reason being one, I like to garden but I refuse to make expensive seeds and plants at my FC house because other people could grab them and I would lose them, if this makes me greedy so be it. Yes the house system is broken. Like I have said many times, wards should have been for FCs and instanced houses should have been made for personal housing.

[MistyMew]

Instanced housing should have been the only option to allow for increased availability. Many games have almost unlimited housing for players.

the neighbourhood/ward system itself is a large part of the "limitations" we have now. IMO the price of empty neighborhoods (for 99% of the time) is too high to pay.

too many fc AND solo players can still not purchase a home, they should have opted for instanced to ensure the maximum amount of homes in demand would be met.

And if not instanced then at least implementing a proper resell option from day 1 would have helped.

1) homes can only be sold back to a "real estate" npc for 100% the original purchase price, would eliminate most of the flippers.
2) resold homes would NOT become available to the public until a random amount of days (different for every resell) has elapsed to ensure people would not be able to plan a resale for ridiculous profit.

side note: need far more focus on the artistic fun of housing and actual player creativity and gain a huge amount of control of what we build.