Weeping city of mhach come toxic?

[Chirol86]

Yeah because that new 24 man raid is one 'repeatedly' same mechanic. Obviously.

Except groups do wipe to one mechanic over and over; I've had it happen, as have most people, I'm sure. People becoming frustrated when others fail to get better isn't uncommon, and you can't really blame them in these cases. I love Weeping City, and I'll run it even if I know people will wipe because it's fun to me, but most just want their 240 gear and want to be done for the week.

[Deceptistar]

nowadays pple just want things on a silver platter.
Same with instances.
If YOU know it, you expect to be given a good team on a silver platter =/
If you DONT know it, you expect its easy enough to clear....

[Seraphix2407]

My alliance yesterday tried to help so many people with amazing macros and give out info, sadly half of the people ignored it. You see that's also a problem, people not listening. The fights are easy, so just listen. Sometimes I wonder if there are more than 4 bosses or simply we have 12 adds in each boss.

[Canadane]

Yeah because that new 24 man raid is one 'repeatedly' same mechanic. Obviously.

That's exactly my point; they're not. Yet people will smash their faces unsuccessfully at the same mechanic over and over again, unable to adapt or learn from a mistake. It's completely understandable if others would be irritated at this.

[loreleidiangelo]

My alliance yesterday tried to help so many people with amazing macros and give out info, sadly half of the people ignored it. You see that's also a problem, people not listening. The fights are easy, so just listen. Sometimes I wonder if there are more than 4 bosses or simply we have 12 adds in each boss.

First time I ran it, I turned off alliance chat because I wanted to figure out the mechanics on my own. Not saying everyone who "doesn't listen" is the same way, but...the fight has only been out for like 54 hours. Let people experience it and possibly enjoy figuring it out on their own.

[Derio]

I cleared the first day and everyone was nice and communicating.

[Seraphix2407]

First time I ran it, I turned off alliance chat because I wanted to figure out the mechanics on my own. Not saying everyone who "doesn't listen" is the same way, but...the fight has only been out for like 54 hours. Let people experience it and possibly enjoy figuring it out on their own.

Yes ofc, but I talk about people who been there plenty of times. Not newcommers. Even I went in blind and didn't need it explained to me, the mechanics are somewhat from other fights we seen before, what coudl possibly hard? I know and it's acceptable people want to know on their own, but keep in mind if you keep die and don't know how, you should ask and not ignore.

[FoxyAreku]

I was never see players as toxic before. They were always nice in finder duty.

You have to be new haha, wish I had that luck.

[Deceptistar]

Everytime a semi tricky (not hard but 'tricky' since its new) instance comes out, it gets us back to the fundamentals of what FF is.
A lot of patience, adaptability, and focus. >.>
A rare trait in most MMOs now, thus the 'toxic' thing. Im guessing they come from the 'pew pew' games.

[Stanelis]

it's not even about people not having skill....

It's new content...its going to wipe. Just because someone ran it and cleared it a couple times on Day 1 doesn't mean that everyone else is caught up too. You're going to have first timers for WEEKS getting into Mhach, either because they were too busy with other content before (crafting/gathering/housing/etc) or busy work weeks or school, or people like me that tend to put it off because I know the level of bullshit that goes on in the first few hours of the patch launch. You can't start assuming that because its been out a couple days that everyone knows what the mechanics or strategy is.

Less about skill, and more about people are still figuring it out for the first time.

The issue isn't the content but the players. They have no patience and with the abandon duty thing it makes doing the city a nightmare, as the functionality is being used as soon as there is a wipe.