I was never see players as toxic before. They were always nice in finder duty.
But, then I joined Weeping city of mhach. I see many people started rude and rage....
I was never see players as toxic before. They were always nice in finder duty.
But, then I joined Weeping city of mhach. I see many people started rude and rage....



Seems about the usual for week 1 of a new patch to me...

I didn't have that problem.
It just launched so most people are understanding that you may not know all the mechanics so most people I partied with were exchanging tips/things they noticed.
The only problem I have is with Ozmar. Screw that thing.


I think what you're experiencing is a tremendous level of frustration from players that know the mechanics, but can't seem to get a group of enough people that can clear it.
For example, you spend, say, 50-60 minutes getting to Ozma and then Wipe; raid clears. Do that again just to get to Ozma for the wipe; raid clears again.
Then do that again.
Oh, and keep in mind you have limited game time because you have a full work week, so you've spent a tremendous amount of time (~4 hours wiping to up to/and to Ozma).
Salt shaker spills.
Isn't that the way it goes tho? You - they- can not expect everyone to be at their level. It's never going to happen. If people don't have the time to be understanding on week no day one then they need to work out their time better. I say this as a veteran who was overseas and still was able to play video games and not be an ass. So to me limited time is no excuse to be an asshole. But that's just me.I think what you're experiencing is a tremendous level of frustration from players that know the mechanics, but can't seem to get a group of enough people that can clear it.
For example, you spend, say, 50-60 minutes getting to Ozma and then Wipe; raid clears. Do that again just to get to Ozma for the wipe; raid clears again.
Then do that again.
Oh, and keep in mind you have limited game time because you have a full work week, so you've spent a tremendous amount of time (~4 hours wiping to up to/and to Ozma).
Salt shaker spills.


VA was toxic after the first couple clears after the patch dropped. I didn't expect Mhach to be any different. I might just turn off Alliance chat forever.


well i guess is mostly the frustration, i don't think is a nice thing to act like this, but i can understand how it can be frustrating to see people make the group wipe because they ignore the strategy and redo countless time the same error.
the raid is a bit more challenging and that soo good. the trouble it's show that the level of skill of people are kinda low.
don't get me wrong, i did see people that was there for the first time learn mechanic in 1-2 wipe. avoiding the redo the same error twice, but you have a lot of people that simply ignore the battle mechanic, thinking that them dps are more important than staying alive or avoid to increase the heavy load of work of the healer or tank.
yes i point the dps, but some healer are too bad... they rely on the other healer and often don't want to really work hard or prefer dps while letting one person die.
and i will not forget the people that ignore common sense to not stand in front of the boss and take damage for nothing...
why this situation? mostly because until now, the content outside raid 8 people was almost facerolling. people need to face harder and harder and harder content, slowly progressing from a new player to a good player. but here, a lot of person are still new player... and it create this situation.
I've only been in once, but everyone was really friendly in my party / alliances. One of the best groups of DF I've been paired with actually.
On patch day I tried the weeping city and 3-4 people quit and the rest of the alliance vote abandoned the duty about half way through.


This isn't uncommon with new content. Got passed Ozma with my first group, but ran out of time on the last boss. Took literally 9 hours to get a group that didn't VA on Ozma wipes to get a clear.
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