Dark knight

[SyzzleSpark]

How do you figure there is "zero excuse?" I've not "mathed it out" myself. Now what?

I dunno, you could try? Instead of demanding for others to spoonfeed you information that you can glean yourself? Ever heard of lmgtfy.com? Same concept.

My personal opinion is that you can. You shouldn't have to play the game the way some random person expects you to before you're entitled to your opinion.

You are always technically entitled to your opinion. But making demands for change when you don't have ground to stand on is something else. And if you're playing poorly, you're just making life harder than it needs to be for yourself and people that play with you, which is infuriating in the face of someone coming to your thread on the forums and saying "hey, if you do this like this, you won't have all the problems that you're citing as reasons for wanting this bombastic change to the job".

[Mattelot]

I dunno, you could try? Instead of demanding for others to spoonfeed you information that you can glean yourself? Ever heard of lmgtfy.com? Same concept.

So what triggers that? I had a guy ask a question in another thread. I answered him. I know I could have said "go figure it out yourself instead of asking us to spoonfeed you information."

[SyzzleSpark]

So what triggers that? I had a guy ask a question in another thread. I answered him. I know I could have said "go figure it out yourself instead of asking us to spoonfeed you information."

Asking for information is different from asking for information and then being like "um I don't believe you, prove it". Particularly when its a frequently asked question that has a generally accepted and well documented answer.

Its like if you came in here and asked "Who has the highest average DPS of all the tanks" and someone answered "WAR" and you were like "I don't see evidence of that anywhere, prove it".

[Mattelot]

Asking for information is different from asking for information and then being like "um I don't believe you, prove it". Particularly when its a frequently asked question that has a generally accepted and well documented answer.

Is there something wrong with asking for proof?

Who generally accepts it? Where is it documented? Who authored this document and when was it's last revision?

Its like if you came in here and asked "Who has the highest average DPS of all the tanks" and someone answered "WAR" and you were like "I don't see evidence of that anywhere, prove it".

What's wrong with that?

Also, you didn't answer my question. What triggers doing it yourself?

[SyzzleSpark]

Is there something wrong with asking for proof?

Who generally accepts it? Where is it documented?Who authored this document and when was it's last revision?

I find asking for proof of readily available information obnoxious, antagonistic, and entitled. All you have to do is work with the numbers the game gives you, and numbers you can find on fflogs.

What's wrong with that?

Also, you didn't answer my question. What triggers doing it yourself?

Only a select few people are mathematically proficient enough to provide you with a 100% accurate answer, and a smaller percentage of those people have time to stop and type it all out. Conversely you can try and do your own math, and then ask others to check it. I.E. the math in my previous post is likely mostly accurate but admittedly does not take everything into account, but it is there for others to see and check and I ceded that it was probably off by some margin, and that it was "napkin" math. I don't want to spend hours of my day trying to find the thread that documented how much of a % increase Blood Weapon or Sword Oath is just because you demand it, so I'm quoting numbers from memory which, even if slightly off, still illustrate the point, which is that DRK's DPS is good and doesn't need the fix that this post suggests.

Asking for information is different from asking for information and then being like "um I don't believe you, prove it". Particularly when its a frequently asked question that has a generally accepted and well documented answer.

[Mattelot]

I find asking for proof of readily available information obnoxious, antagonistic, and entitled. All you have to do is work with the numbers the game gives you, and numbers you can find on fflogs.

So if I go into my game, there will be all the information you stated? That readily available? Or are you saying there are steps you need to take to find the "readily available" information? You believe that someone asking for proof of someone else's claims to be obnoxious. That's your problem. You find it to be antagonistic? How is wanting to know if you're being given good information hostile? You find it to be entitled. You can choose not to answer. It's about not being naive.

Only a select few people are mathematically proficient enough to provide you with a 100% accurate answer, and a smaller percentage of those people have time to stop and type it all out. Conversely you can try and do your own math, and then ask others to check it. I.E. the math in my previous post is likely mostly accurate but admittedly does not take everything into account, but it is there for others to see and check and I ceded that it was probably off by some margin, and that it was "napkin" math. I don't want to spend hours of my day trying to find the thread that documented how much of a % increase Blood Weapon or Sword Oath is just because you demand it, so I'm quoting numbers from memory which, even if slightly off, still illustrate the point, which is that DRK's DPS is good and doesn't need the fix that this post suggests.

Can you please provide me with a link to the post where information was demanded? I would greatly appreciate it.

Also, you have still not answered many of my questions. What triggers doing it yourself? Who generally accepts the information. Where is it documented? Who authored this document and when was it's last revision?

[SyzzleSpark]

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You have tooltips in the game. Those tooltips have numbers. With numbers math can happen. See the post I have above yours. I'm done now, its clear that you're just being difficult. The information is out there and I've actually given you a great deal of information myself, so I'm gonna leave it at that.