Complex Math Question

[Lyth]

I had a look how a few different groups set up their openers, back during the thread discussing the role of Plunge in DRK's opener. I noticed that a certain world-first progression group was doing exactly that on A5S-A7S, except with Grit on for the initial PS. It's going to be partly contingent on both you and your ninja, but it seems reasonably doable, even when playing with highly skilled and geared dps.

I don't really see the point in using Shadewalker on WAR during an Unchained opener. If anyone else is remotely close in enmity after that opener, your WAR really should reconsider their job choice. If you're going to swap in the first two minutes or so, you want that difference to be applied between your DRK and your WAR, not just between your tanks and the rest of the group.

[Chronons]

The reason I did the math on Ninja was because Syz was wanting to compare WAR(MT) - Unchained and DRK OT vs. a Gritless DRK(MT), a WAR OT, and a Ninja supporting. Option A doesn't have the Ninja at all according to my understanding.

As far as the rotations go - of course they are open for interpretation. Its really hard to gauge how many GCDs each one would get in the given amount of time because technically the puller gets extra uptime for being the first hit and the second may start the rotation before the pullers GCD reprocs. I just tried my best to find "basic" rotations and keep them pretty equal as far as GCDs went so we could get a rough idea of the numbers possible.

I agree with both of you that WAR would probably be the better option to try and tank stance-less Shadewalker, but for whatever reason the OP may want DRK in the MT slot and is just trying to find a way to maximize it as best as possible within that parameter.

I had a look how a few different groups set up their openers, back during the thread discussing the role of Plunge in DRK's opener. I noticed that a certain world-first progression group was doing exactly that on A5S-A7S, except with Grit on for the initial PS. It's going to be partly contingent on both you and your ninja, but it seems reasonably doable, even when playing with highly skilled and geared dps.

Thats funny, I did the same thing for that thread and noticed this group doing it as well. It very well could be the best option for the OP.

[SyzzleSpark]

I had a look how a few different groups set up their openers, back during the thread discussing the role of Plunge in DRK's opener. I noticed that a certain world-first progression group was doing exactly that on A5S-A7S, except with Grit on for the initial PS. It's going to be partly contingent on both you and your ninja, but it seems reasonably doable, even when playing with highly skilled and geared dps.

Thats funny, I did the same thing for that thread and noticed this group doing it as well. It very well could be the best option for the OP.

Yeah that's what my group defaults to, but we're experimenting with new things since we replaced our WAR with one who is... much more of a team player and willing to try things.

After testing it I could do the Gritless+NIN opener with 2 Powerslashes but not 1. And of course the Unchained opener works like a charm, we all knew that. I guess I just wanted to see what the bare minimum would be that I could get away with if I'm pulling enmity-wise, and if that would be more DPS efficient.

[Chronons]

Since you can reliably hold aggro both ways then the real question is just- which is more dps efficient? The Grit one PS or the Gritless two PS. What rotations do you use in each scenario?