Wow, no mention of Auction house / MW improvements

[Molly_Millions]

I haven't seen it happen, but I stand corrected.



Again that is essentially what I'm arguing for, EXCEPT with this system there is no use for retainers, or wards. If you are going to make it so we buy everything from the search menu, then we may as well be able to post our items up from the search menu, too. We would not have to fight for space in the wards this way, or zone to get to our storage.

However, as I've said before, I'd be happy if they added this in the form of an AH, and kept the wards for whoever would rather use those.

Again if you read my suggestions, I said that we would have the OPTION to buy from the menu for a fee and a small time delay before we'd receive the item. This does three things, it adds incentive to use the retainers in the new system and allows those who want to buy from the menu the option to do so and also creates a gil sink. (We need more of those)


Also, I'm not sure how it is on your server, but on Fabul there is always space in the wards now, we haven't had to 'fight for space' since 1.18.

[Tsuga]

Again if you read my suggestions, I said that we would have the OPTION to buy from the menu for a fee and a small time delay before we'd receive the item. This does three things, it adds incentive to use the retainers in the new system and allows those who want to buy from the menu the option to do so and also creates a gil sink. (We need more of those)


Also, I'm not sure how it is on your server, but on Fabul there is always space in the wards now, we haven't had to 'fight for space' since 1.18.

On Besaid, the popular wards are always full. Menders Row, the tailor's wards, battlecraft, spellcraft. I haven't been able to set my retainer up in those wards since shortly after 1.18. And this is without the assumed influx of players that we'll get at "relaunch".

Again, if you're going to give us a decent search function, and a way to buy from the menu, it may as well be separated from the wards. I don't care if it's taxed. I just want a better, and more user friendly system. Just because we're used to the wards, and are putting up with them, does not mean that they are good.

[Molly_Millions]

On Besaid, the popular wards are always full. Menders Row, the tailor's wards, battlecraft, spellcraft. I haven't been able to set my retainer up in those wards since shortly after 1.18. And this is without the assumed influx of players that we'll get at "relaunch".

Again, if you're going to give us a decent search function, and a way to buy from the menu, it may as well be separated from the wards. I don't care if it's taxed. I just want a better, and more user friendly system. Just because we're used to the wards, and are putting up with them, does not mean that they are good.

What I don't get is that you can't seem to see past scraping the wards entirely in favor of an entirely menu based system. Simply improving the wards that we have now can provide both.

[Tsuga]

What I don't get is that you can't seem to see past scraping the wards entirely in favor of an entirely menu based system. Simply improving the wards that we have now can provide both.

The wards, and the retainers clutter what could be an even more streamlined system. Having everything be menu based, from an NPC in town is easier to understand for new people, and it is easier to manage for everyone else. Trying to keep retainers in such a system would only serve to unnecessarily complicate it. That is why I think that they should be two totally different systems.

To me, ideally it would be like this:

If you feel like browsing for goods, you can go to the market wards and browse retainers, similar to "rolanberry market" in XI. If you need items now, or are regearing a class, you would have the Auction House, where you could instantly search for, and purchase the items that you need, or list the items that you want to sell whenever you want to sell them.

[AmyRae]

What I don't get is that you can't seem to see past scraping the wards entirely in favor of an entirely menu based system. Simply improving the wards that we have now can provide both.

I don't think the Wards should be scrapped, but there's no way they can function as anything resembling an Auction House. In fact, trying to add Auction House functionality is a waste of time because any attempt to do so not only ruins the off-line bazaar environment that the Wards now have, but also makes for a poor Auction House because it would be based on a system that's too different.

Better to have two systems in place.

[Molly_Millions]

I don't think the Wards should be scrapped, but there's no way they can function as anything resembling an Auction House. In fact, trying to add Auction House functionality is a waste of time because any attempt to do so not only ruins the off-line bazaar environment that the Wards now have, but also makes for a poor Auction House because it would be based on a system that's too different.

Better to have two systems in place.

Follow the url in my sig, there definitely is a way to turn the wards into a 'best of both'.

[AmyRae]

Follow the url in my sig, there definitely is a way to turn the wards into a 'best of both'.

I don't think your plan will work. You'll ruin the wards, and have a crappy Auction House. Absolutely no one will be happy with that.

[Molly_Millions]

I don't think your plan will work. You'll ruin the wards, and have a crappy Auction House. Absolutely no one will be happy with that.

Vastly improving the search, for example by reorganizing items by category rather then ward and improving the search results, and allowing people to buy items from the menu, would ruin the wards in what way? please be specific. I also don't see how that would be so different from an entirely menu driven AH that it would be a crappy AH.