It hasn't even been a full day

[DarkmoonVael]

This is where you realise that those hardcore end game raiders really are that highly skilled and just consume content like this. It was a very very short time on my server for the hardcore groups to have Nidhogg Ex on farm from when the servers went up.

And if people want this level in play in PF and bring it themselves, then so be it. Its their PF, their rules.

[KikinoKino]

What's stopping you from hosting your own party? You don't have to depend on people who want to farm if you want to learn.

IT'S FORBIDDEN TO FARM CONTENTS WHEN I STILL HAVEN'T CLEAR IT ! HOW DARE YOU MAKE A PF TO FARM. GET YOUR ASSES OVER HERE AND CARRY ME! NOW ! ALL 7 OF YOU!

On a serious note, I also fail to understand why cleared people can't make farm parties. It almost feels like OP want everyone in his server cater to his need.

[Archaell]

Imo the bigger problem than the farm parties is the duration of the bonus, which promotes carrying. You get it done, the bonus is gone and you jump straight into the farm parties to wipe there more than in the clear parties.

Were the bonus few clears long it would motivate players with a clear to help in the learning parties, while making carrying more annoying to do, not to mention more people would have to actually practice the fight to remove the bonus.

[ScarletDawn]

At least there is a new system now to help players who haven't cleared said content and not get left behind by the entitled farm groups. Really dont want another Sephi ex where i struggled to get a group because people kept joining thinking its a farm group when i label PRACTICE....

Anyways its up to them if they wanna farm it and burn through content which needs to last another 3-4 months.

[Nekodar]

I haven't even logged in yet (busy adulting ATM) but I am aiming to finish the story tonight and I do want a taste of EX. Though I imagine as per usual in Hyperion, they won't let me in a PF unless I've cleared and "no bonus" and know the fight like the back of my hand. Some of us weren't born awesome like others I guess?

If you need experience to enter others PF, put up your own stating clearly that it's learning from start.

[Skivvy]

At least there is a new system now to help players who haven't cleared said content and not get left behind by the entitled farm groups. Really dont want another Sephi ex where i struggled to get a group because people kept joining thinking its a farm group when i label PRACTICE....

Anyways its up to them if they wanna farm it and burn through content which needs to last another 3-4 months.

What makes these groups entitled? Making their own parties with their own specific requirements?

[ScarletDawn]

What makes these groups entitled? Making their own parties with their own specific requirements?

1 wipe = out or 1 fail = out...ok what if the leader makes a fail? Or causes the wipe do we get to boot them out? See what i mean by entitled.

[Kaurie]

And I've already seen parties asking for people who have done atleast 8 full clears and have EX Steps of Faith on farm.

That's....pushing it by a lot.

Most likely a joke, but even if it isn't.. How dare they set requirements for their party! Seriously, if you haven't done the requirements don't join. If no one has, the PF will not get filled up. If people have, then the PF requirements are fine.

[Eothas]

1 wipe = out or 1 fail = out...ok what if the leader makes a fail? Or causes the wipe do we get to boot them out? See what i mean by entitled.

PF yesterday. lel.

After years of playing MMOs or even MOBAs I have learned that this kind of people are just bad, delusional players that think they are godly. Some of them are good indeed, but very rarely great. I just ignore them completely if possible.

[ScarletDawn]

PF yesterday. lel.

After years of playing MMOs or even MOBAs I have learned that this kind of people are just bad, delusional players that think they are godly. Some of them are good indeed, but very rarely great. I just ignore them completely if possible.

And what if the leader was bad, do they make fun of them and kick them? Nope Lucky its not as bad as that on our server but we still have the 1 fail = kick types...soon as you tell them they failed you get booted out to..its just a raid why are people this horrible? And why are people this desperate to clear a raid?

What is the big rush to clear and farm a raid asap?