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  1. #61
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    Goffard Gaffgarion
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    I'm sorry for the trouble, but I'd appreciate some help.

    I've regularly been capping Red Scrips and purchasing Tokens for DoH/DoL,

    I've never spent any of the tokens however, and I'm still wearing i150/i140 MH/OH, minimum melded Chimerical set for DoH (i150) and Serpentskin min melded for DoL (i150). I still have the 3 soul of crafters from the quest unlock, having never committed to a specialty. Also, I'm still wearing the max melded BiS accessories from 2.55. (Essentially I've been doing the Doh/Dol grind for months but never went passed the 'get your 9 weekly tokens,' part)

    I suppose it would make sense for me to finally take the next steps in gear progression, but I'm wondering how I should best handle it with the 3.3 adjustments. Now with new gear, should I be trying to leap frog?

    IIRC, I was told before to purchase the i180 BSM offhand tool, then with it craft the 2-star i170 Offhands and meld for other DoHs. Has this changed? Should I just buy the token belt/accessories, or is the crafted + melded necessary?

    Essentially, what would you do in my situation? Obviously I'd like to move towards the universal set for omni-crafting as the 'end goal.' Tryng to catch up.

    http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/UCTQ (never linked an ariyala set before myself, did I do it right?) Craftsmanship/Control/CP: 661, 648, 358. Not sure why Craft/Control is much lower on the link.

    thanks for the help, I'm overwhelmed. I thought waiting would make things more simple, but now Im' more confused.
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  2. #62
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    Adam Zoldyck
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    Quote Originally Posted by keyburz View Post
    This means 2 star materials went from the most expensive thing, to literally trash.
    They made them even cheaper as they are dropping like candy from Aqu. Could see them hitting 1 Gil soon lol. Talk about killing a system.
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  3. #63
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    Adam Zoldyck
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xenosan View Post
    I've regularly been capping Red Scrips and purchasing Tokens for DoH/DoL,
    You must have a ton of red script token then?

    Two options:
    One:
    Convert them to Blue (get 4 for each) and gear up everything but belt and accessories to the i180 (grind more Blue to do this if needed). Now craft the i170 belt and accessories from the old red script mats, which will now to super cheap, meld them up, you are now 3 star.
    Two:
    Get someone to craft you the i170 shared set. Convert those red script tokens to crafting materia, and meld the shared set up. 3 Star.

    Personally, I would say option 1, as if you have the i180 mainhands you can then upgrade them to i200 over crafting the i195 potentially.
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  4. #64
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    Goffard Gaffgarion
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    Thanks duuude, yea about 135 tokens, took a hiatus in Jan-March (Fallout 3). Trying to learn best bang for buck
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    Last edited by Xenosan; 06-09-2016 at 12:11 AM.

  5. #65
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    Anyone know how to make the new Glamour stuff the Moonfire.
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    Noctis Covey
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScarletDawn View Post
    Anyone know how to make the new Glamour stuff the Moonfire.
    They are level 50 1 star item ^^
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  7. #67
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thieu5470 View Post
    They are level 50 1 star item ^^


    nvm found it.. Thx, item DB lists it as a lv 55 craft.....
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  8. #68
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScarletDawn View Post
    nvm found it.. Thx, item DB lists it as a lv 55 craft.....
    That's the ilvl of the recipe.
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  9. #69
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    Adore Mi
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    So, I'm very confused about one thing. They stated in patch notes that all of the Scrip cost of the i180 gear and tools was being significantly reduced, and most of it has. However, the off hand tools are still showing up as costing 26 Red Scrip tokens. Is this on purpose? Why reduce the main hand tools to 12 Blue Scrips, but leave the off hands costing a full three weeks of Red?
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  10. #70
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    Colette Pascal
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamZ View Post
    Talk about killing a system.
    Yes. That system was a mistake in the first place, needed to die, and this patch was the appropriate time to kill it.

    In 3.2, they made the most ridiculous grind with favors and crap to gear up crafters, with ZERO reward for doing so. There was nothing to craft if you geared up. By "nothing," I mean i180 battle gear that cost several million Gil worth of mats to make. No one would buy that when the uncapped tomestones gave 180.

    SE had messed up badly. Never before in ARR had the grind been THAT bad and there be literally no reward. The forum was filled with threads of people talking about how crafting was dead. The market board for the crafted 180 battle gear was literally a sea of zeroes.

    Nevertheless, a number of dedicated crafters spent the ridiculous amounts of time and Gil to gear up anyways, either for their pride as crafters or the hope that they would be rewarded in a future patch.

    Yoshi decided to delay nerfing of the gear progression that would have normally occurred in 3.3 so that those who geared in 3.2 would be rewarded for their efforts. Those crafters had a great run in 3.3 and it is now time to stop making up for the mistakes of 3.2 and move forward with gear progression.
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