One positive note about crafting...

[Lunaru]

Oh no! God forbid they should start to actually enforce optimal rank! It's the end of the damn world I tell ya, how dare SE penalize people for wearing gear above their actual rank?!

maybe iam to stubborn to understand my own tools, or if logic is not requested (would fit for some players i guess)

i use a hammer for quite some time(lvl 1), i use then a better hammer(30sh),also quite some time,..and so on
but then iam to stubborn to use a bit better hammer (6 lvl higher then skill) ? gosh, i cant wait to get any reasonable explanation why i shouldn't be able to use it at least the same good as the former one . even less then good as the 14lvl lower one. we don't talk about bit less bonus,we talk about half of it
math-wise 14 lvl lower= better bonus,then 6 lvl higher ..
fits for rods/hammer/alembics etc

its a hammer, not rocket-science

or enlight me, why the seneschal coatee lost all bonus, (not outlvld,not changed,didnt even get dated)

[Eekiki]

maybe iam to stubborn to understand my own tools, or if logic is not requested (would fit for some players i guess)

i use a hammer for quite some time(lvl 1), i use then a better hammer(30sh),also quite some time,..and so on
but then iam to stubborn to use a bit better hammer (6 lvl higher then skill) ? gosh, i cant wait to get any reasonable explanation why i shouldn't be able to use it at least the same good as the former one . even less then good as the 14lvl lower one. we don't talk about bit less bonus,we talk about half of it
math-wise 14 lvl lower= better bonus,then 6 lvl higher ..
fits for rods/hammer/alembics etc

its a hammer, not rocket-science

A hammer that is 6 levels higher means that you are using a hammer that is intended for someone with a higher skill level than you. You don't have the skills to use it to its full potential yet, so of course your results won't be as good.

[Lunaru]

A hammer that is 6 levels higher means that you are using a hammer that is intended for someone with a higher skill level than you. You don't have the skills to use it to its full potential yet, so of course your results won't be as good.

sorry,if i hand you a iron hammer,and say (use it for a couple weeks,then a steel hammer,then a steel/fiber hammer) do you really think,you hit your thumb more often with the steel/fiber then with the iron? its not logic.

basically, 14 lvl lower item .. gives more bonus,then 6 lvl higher (that's one too high) , i guess fanboys cannot even think with reason. (small hint, 14 lvl more far then 6) ..if you still don't get it,maybe you find a "math for beginners-tut" somewhere.

[Ashgarth]

sorry,if i hand you a iron hammer,and say (use it for a couple weeks,then a steel hammer,then a steel/fiber hammer) do you really think,you hit your thumb more often with the steel/fiber then with the iron? its not logic.

basically, 14 lvl lower item .. gives more bonus,then 6 lvl higher (that's one too high) , i guess fanboys cannot even think with reason. (small hint, 14 lvl more far then 6) ..if you still don't get it,maybe you find a "math for beginners-tut" somewhere.

Yeah... 6 levels ABOVE your level, I dont see the problem, ¿You want realism? You are using a tool that you dont fully understand how to use until you gain 6 more levels, of course it gives less stats that something you already know how to use.

And yes, characters are retarded and dont know how to use hammers, WELCOME TO A VIDEOGAME

[Arcell]

sorry,if i hand you a iron hammer,and say (use it for a couple weeks,then a steel hammer,then a steel/fiber hammer) do you really think,you hit your thumb more often with the steel/fiber then with the iron? its not logic.

basically, 14 lvl lower item .. gives more bonus,then 6 lvl higher (that's one too high) , i guess fanboys cannot even think with reason. (small hint, 14 lvl more far then 6) ..if you still don't get it,maybe you find a "math for beginners-tut" somewhere.

Say we had rank requirements on everything instead, you wouldn't even be allowed to hold a hammer that's higher than your rank. Does that make any logical sense? Not really but tons of games do it and no one cares because there is a reason for it.

With your logic, if you had your way every crafter would just be running around with the highest rank equipment because logically it should give you the best bonuses. At that point there's literally no reason to have the level 1-49 equipment around. Thankfully you're not a game developer.

[Viridiana]

maybe iam to stubborn to understand my own tools, or if logic is not requested (would fit for some players i guess)

i use a hammer for quite some time(lvl 1), i use then a better hammer(30sh),also quite some time,..and so on
but then iam to stubborn to use a bit better hammer (6 lvl higher then skill) ? gosh, i cant wait to get any reasonable explanation why i shouldn't be able to use it at least the same good as the former one . even less then good as the 14lvl lower one. we don't talk about bit less bonus,we talk about half of it
math-wise 14 lvl lower= better bonus,then 6 lvl higher ..
fits for rods/hammer/alembics etc

its a hammer, not rocket-science

or enlight me, why the seneschal coatee lost all bonus, (not outlvld,not changed,didnt even get dated)

There were two sides arguing a while ago (vague, I know). One side said we need required ranks, the other said we just need harsher penalties for being below recommended rank. Guess which side just won?

[Dallie]

There were two sides arguing a while ago (vague, I know). One side said we need required, the other said we just need harsher penalties for being below recommended rank. Guess which side just won?

Personally, i'd have rather stuck with optimal vs. required, but I guess that we did indeed lose the battle. Now, you're going to have 75% of players in the same gear at higher levels due to min-maxing.

On the other hand, it brings crafting profit out of the gutter. Since you've got required stapled onto every piece of new gear, there's going to be a wider variety of equipment for all levels, which potentially spells profit for a crafter no matter what rank (minus the shafted alchemists and culinarians for the time being).

It's a 50/50 situation overall. I just wish, that for once, SE would take a step forward without another one back.