One positive note about crafting...

[Dallie]

I know a lot of folks are upset about the drastic changes, but it seems like they matched the original experience points formula to the current one.

Before, your SP gains could fluctuate as much as 150% from one synth to the next...now they seem to be relatively consistent, as was the way with most experience points gains.

For ex: I've been getting between 408-417XP per synth, vs. before it would have been something like 323-525.

Yay for consistency.

[Lunaru]

great, you found one positive part
lets see about the negatives,
-in case you boughd as 41 alche a 47 alembic (100k) instead of a 42 alembic (3m !) ,you are screwed with 27% of the former stats ,because of 1 lvl. fantastic ,should have keep'd my 37

-in case you have a crafter's outfit fitting with lots control and stuff in the 40sh to support your crafting classes,you are totaly screwed now, if you think about doing one of your 20 or 30 skills

-in case you like to do some crafttasks, (leves) lets say 40 gsm, you do it once ,and its gone, it doesn't show up again, but well its now up as 20sh (useless) , no matter how many points you have,no matter if they wrote you can redo it right away,yes i could..but as 20sh. and no other 40sh up, (focused uldah,but not even grid/ll)

exp-wise no change on the grinding parts, at least not much to note in the 40sh ranges(gsm old/new recipes,alche)

i could go on,with my hubby and his woody/bsm/alche/weaver outfits,but i guess you see where its heading

for now,it looks horrible ,and it wont change soon. would take a while to gather resources to rebuild the whole outfits (dew thread as crafter focused? great idea)

thumbs down on the crafting changes
about archer 27 choosing the 47 bow,because repair/build was possible,i wont even talk
or how the fishing rod 47 could be worse then the 20sh for 38 fisher is beyond me.

yep,thats so far all, imo.

[Arcell]

great, you found one positive part
lets see about the negatives,
-in case you boughd as 41 alche a 47 alembic (100k) instead of a 42 alembic (3m !) ,you are screwed with 27% of the former stats ,because of 1 lvl. fantastic ,should have keep'd my 37

-in case you have a crafter's outfit fitting with lots control and stuff in the 40sh to support your crafting classes,you are totaly screwed now, if you think about doing one of your 20 or 30 skills

-in case you like to do some crafttasks, (leves) lets say 40 gsm, you do it once ,and its gone, it doesn't show up again, but well its now up as 20sh (useless) , no matter how many points you have,no matter if they wrote you can redo it right away,yes i could..but as 20sh. and no other 40sh up, (focused uldah,but not even grid/ll)

exp-wise no change on the grinding parts, at least not much to note in the 40sh ranges(gsm old/new recipes,alche)

i could go on,with my hubby and his woody/bsm/alche/weaver outfits,but i guess you see where its heading

for now,it looks horrible ,and it wont change soon. would take a while to gather resources to rebuild the whole outfits (dew thread as crafter focused? great idea)

thumbs down on the crafting changes
about archer 27 choosing the 47 bow,because repair/build was possible,i wont even talk
or how the fishing rod 47 could be worse then the 20sh for 38 fisher is beyond me.

yep,thats so far all, imo.

Oh no! God forbid they should start to actually enforce optimal rank! It's the end of the damn world I tell ya, how dare SE penalize people for wearing gear above their actual rank?!

[Lunaru]

Oh no! God forbid they should start to actually enforce optimal rank! It's the end of the damn world I tell ya, how dare SE penalize people for wearing gear above their actual rank?!

maybe iam to stubborn to understand my own tools, or if logic is not requested (would fit for some players i guess)

i use a hammer for quite some time(lvl 1), i use then a better hammer(30sh),also quite some time,..and so on
but then iam to stubborn to use a bit better hammer (6 lvl higher then skill) ? gosh, i cant wait to get any reasonable explanation why i shouldn't be able to use it at least the same good as the former one . even less then good as the 14lvl lower one. we don't talk about bit less bonus,we talk about half of it
math-wise 14 lvl lower= better bonus,then 6 lvl higher ..
fits for rods/hammer/alembics etc

its a hammer, not rocket-science

or enlight me, why the seneschal coatee lost all bonus, (not outlvld,not changed,didnt even get dated)

[Eekiki]

maybe iam to stubborn to understand my own tools, or if logic is not requested (would fit for some players i guess)

i use a hammer for quite some time(lvl 1), i use then a better hammer(30sh),also quite some time,..and so on
but then iam to stubborn to use a bit better hammer (6 lvl higher then skill) ? gosh, i cant wait to get any reasonable explanation why i shouldn't be able to use it at least the same good as the former one . even less then good as the 14lvl lower one. we don't talk about bit less bonus,we talk about half of it
math-wise 14 lvl lower= better bonus,then 6 lvl higher ..
fits for rods/hammer/alembics etc

its a hammer, not rocket-science

A hammer that is 6 levels higher means that you are using a hammer that is intended for someone with a higher skill level than you. You don't have the skills to use it to its full potential yet, so of course your results won't be as good.

[Lunaru]

A hammer that is 6 levels higher means that you are using a hammer that is intended for someone with a higher skill level than you. You don't have the skills to use it to its full potential yet, so of course your results won't be as good.

sorry,if i hand you a iron hammer,and say (use it for a couple weeks,then a steel hammer,then a steel/fiber hammer) do you really think,you hit your thumb more often with the steel/fiber then with the iron? its not logic.

basically, 14 lvl lower item .. gives more bonus,then 6 lvl higher (that's one too high) , i guess fanboys cannot even think with reason. (small hint, 14 lvl more far then 6) ..if you still don't get it,maybe you find a "math for beginners-tut" somewhere.

[Viridiana]

maybe iam to stubborn to understand my own tools, or if logic is not requested (would fit for some players i guess)

i use a hammer for quite some time(lvl 1), i use then a better hammer(30sh),also quite some time,..and so on
but then iam to stubborn to use a bit better hammer (6 lvl higher then skill) ? gosh, i cant wait to get any reasonable explanation why i shouldn't be able to use it at least the same good as the former one . even less then good as the 14lvl lower one. we don't talk about bit less bonus,we talk about half of it
math-wise 14 lvl lower= better bonus,then 6 lvl higher ..
fits for rods/hammer/alembics etc

its a hammer, not rocket-science

or enlight me, why the seneschal coatee lost all bonus, (not outlvld,not changed,didnt even get dated)

There were two sides arguing a while ago (vague, I know). One side said we need required ranks, the other said we just need harsher penalties for being below recommended rank. Guess which side just won?

[Dallie]

There were two sides arguing a while ago (vague, I know). One side said we need required, the other said we just need harsher penalties for being below recommended rank. Guess which side just won?

Personally, i'd have rather stuck with optimal vs. required, but I guess that we did indeed lose the battle. Now, you're going to have 75% of players in the same gear at higher levels due to min-maxing.

On the other hand, it brings crafting profit out of the gutter. Since you've got required stapled onto every piece of new gear, there's going to be a wider variety of equipment for all levels, which potentially spells profit for a crafter no matter what rank (minus the shafted alchemists and culinarians for the time being).

It's a 50/50 situation overall. I just wish, that for once, SE would take a step forward without another one back.

[PrettyPrincess]

I crafted last night with no problems? Not everyone is the same I guess.

[Eekiki]

I don't craft, but I've heard nothing but positives from my LS mates who do.