is selling housing bannable?

[Alistaire]

Add that the player you're paying might not even reliquish the plot, double screwed

That's pretty cut and dry though. Any player deal that someone doesn't follow through on, GMs can check the logs and find the seller didn't deliver what they promised. The problem in my scenario is you end up with 3 parties who have done nothing wrong, and then what do you do? Give the buyer the house? Then 3rd guy loses. Force a refund? Seller loses. So allowing it becomes a problem because if SE says "sure go do it" sellers can potentially be out too, and who's to say the buyer doesn't line someone up to run in and snag it, buyer pretends not to know the guy, makes a complaint.

To my knowledge it is, I have reported people who advertised or tried to sell and the GMs did respond that it is against the TOS. Didn't think to snap the reply or conversation at the time though.

But you haven't talked to every GM and the point is there's been GMs on record saying it's OK.

[Cwestcott18]

Nothing really wrong with someone wanting to sell their plot, if someone wants to go around and pay way extra to get it then let them, to many people seemingly want to mark what "way" is wrong, its either complain about others selling plots, or complain about how overpriced they are XD, housing isn't mandatory

[Morzy]

Nothing really wrong with someone wanting to sell their plot, if someone wants to go around and pay way extra to get it then let them, to many people seemingly want to mark what "way" is wrong, its either complain about others selling plots, or complain about how overpriced they are XD, housing isn't mandatory

Oh a lot of people would disagree with u, but it seems u dont recognize their arguments.

[Cwestcott18]

Oh a lot of people would disagree with u, but it seems u dont recognize their arguments.

Well mostly yours XD

[Kosmos992k]

Users exploiting said "bad game design"..

Why can't people find other ways to make gil instead of making it harder for others trying to obtain a limited supply of housing plots. Oh, right, a combination of being greedy and lazy.

Why do people (not you) excuse others when they exploit the 'game design' in a way that disrupts others? I mean, seriously there are numerous ways in which individuals or groups can rain on another players' parade in an MMORPG that involve exploiting the game design, bad or otherwise, why do we need to excuse people who do this? Hell, I've seen people making a virtue out of this reselling of plot relinquishment information like it's some kind of exemplary instance of capitalism in practice, when in fact it's little more than carpetbagging.

[Rhodkr]

A great way to fix this would be to limit on house per account and one house per FC rule. I know a certain FC has about 6 or 7 houses in lavender beds on Gilgamesh for example. the one house per account rule would prevent people buying up multiple houses to sell in the first place.

[Celef]

Nothing really wrong with someone wanting to sell their plot, if someone wants to go around and pay way extra to get it then let them.

Actually there is, player used to buy multiple plots just to resell them 10 min laters for 10 or 15 millions (heard of a FC with 26 houses only used to resell)

[Kabzy]

If you want compensation, wait for the auto-demolishing system to take effect, don't sit here and tell me you can't get compensation, it's been available since 2015.

I might not need my medium plot soon, auto-demolition has been put on hold and SE have provided us with no way to relinquish our land. Not all of us are looking to profit, if I was to 'sell' my land I would only want what I paid for it. The lack of features implemented towards these aspects of housing are not the players fault, so like any commodity in game it should be allowed to go on sale.

People who buy multiple houses with the intent to resell are a lot worse, but stating that no one should be allowed to sell regardless of their circumstances is a little silly. Desperation is making the communtiy angry, but not everything is a bannable offence.

[Canadane]

Yes it is, but there has not been enough ban to scare people so they continu, thinking it only happens to others

I think it's more that most players don't visit the forums, they just play the game. There's been no real announcement saying not to try selling your house. The closest thing we got was the auto-relinquishment.

They really need to post an official notice in game or somewhere where people will be able to see it regarding the legalities of being paid to abandon your plot.

[Zelas]

A great way to fix this would be to limit on house per account and one house per FC rule.

Except it's too late to do that. If they decide to implement something like this, they'll run into trouble no matter how they to it.

- If SE asks people to choose one house they want to keep, those who already have several houses will want to keep all of them and will scream outrage.
- If SE allows people who already have a lot of houses to keep them, people who come in after the implementation of the limitation will be mad that other people can own many houses but they can't.

There's no way to fairly implement this anymore. They should've thought about it beforehand.