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    Econ 101

    A market achieves equilibrium at a price point where supply equals demand.
    If the price point is artificially kept lower than the equilibrium point, the result is a shortage.
    If the price point is artificially kept higher than the equilibrium point, the result is a surplus.

    Supply is the same for all servers.
    Demand is different for each server, thus resulting in a different equilibrium point for each server. Past pricing models seemed to make an effort to account for this, either to reduce demand or to reduce the supply of Gil on certain servers (housing takes Gil out of circulation).

    As to why they do it differently now, I don't know. The only way to make everyone happy is to have a limitless supply of housing, which they've said they can't do.

    Some things they could do...
    1. Give more housing to servers with more population.
    2. As a compromise of sorts between the two camps in this argument, they could have wards at multiple price points. For example, the first set of wards could be 3 mil for a small house. Second tier is 5 mil. Third tier is 10 mil. The cheaper ones of course sell out faster and give people with less Gil a chance to get in. Expensive wards would not sell out overnight so housing wouldn't only be available during the Walmart Black Friday bum rush.

    The economist in me would advocate a system wherein market forces can determine equilibrium, such as an auction system or one where initial prices were stupid high and came down over time until buyers are found (not unlike the current system, but with higher starting points and lower ending points).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramina View Post
    So it's ok to lock people out of access... only if it's not those with a lot of gil? Got it.
    The houses are a set price and as you're likely aware, they're realising more on Tuesday. You have as much of a chance of getting one of those houses as everyone else. If they all sell out before you get one though, then you can always consider moving to a less populated world that has houses available (as someone further up pointed out).
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    Quote Originally Posted by giantslayer View Post
    The economist in me would advocate a system wherein market forces can determine equilibrium, such as an auction system or one where initial prices were stupid high and came down over time until buyers are found (not unlike the current system, but with higher starting points and lower ending points).
    Exactly what I've been hoping they would do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by worldofneil View Post
    The houses are a set price and as you're likely aware, they're realising more on Tuesday. You have as much of a chance of getting one of those houses as everyone else. If they all sell out before you get one though, then you can always consider moving to a less populated world that has houses available (as someone further up pointed out).
    Er I already have a house... I quoted what I was replying to which has nothing to do with me wanting a house.
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    The whole idea of housing as a limited resource is, in my opinion, outrageous. It is as if only the first 10% of a server's accounts may get access to the Savage raids, the rest will never be able to even enter the place until they decide to allow it.

    That's why even with the low prices, I refuse to participate in the housing content. But I've heard rumors that 3.4 brings apartment-like housing which is instanced and has infinite supply. That I am happy with and will participate in.
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    maybe its S.E's way of telling ppl cluster humping each other on large servers, to move to smaller ones. On Zalera it took almost 3 weeks for all the houses to sell from the 45 day demolish timer. I find these large server woes rather amusing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by giantslayer View Post
    A market achieves equilibrium at a price point where supply equals demand.
    Assuming no externalities. Assuming people act 100% rationally. Assuming supply and demand are independent. Assuming perfect competition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by birdy_reene View Post
    maybe its S.E's way of telling ppl cluster humping each other on large servers, to move to smaller ones. On Zalera it took almost 3 weeks for all the houses to sell from the 45 day demolish timer. I find these large server woes rather amusing.
    Well, the server selection didn't really mention how well populated the server was when I picked it. And now it'd be a bit late to change server as I'd need to leave friends and FC behind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by worldofneil View Post
    If they all sell out before you get one though, then you can always consider moving to a less populated world that has houses available (as someone further up pointed out).
    Yeah and pay what....15 bucks just because SE won't do thing properly....I'm starting to think it's done on purpose to bosst world transfert and money coming from it....

    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    Considering that the devs are apparently dealing with dinosaur tech for their servers, don't count on it happening anytime soon.
    Well it may happen one day, when they stop using the FF14 money to work on other FF...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watachy View Post
    C'était en fait SE qui survolait Ishgard sur une liasse de billets

    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    People don't know how to take criticism anymore, and bad play is rewarded with with a coddling mentality. Yes, this is a casual game for the most part - that doesn't mean people need to walk on eggshells in fear of getting reported for pointing out things. This whole 'please don't say anything even slightly negative' mentality that we seem to be going towards and the devs seemingly pushing towards it is creating a disturbing trend.

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    Well i for one would not like to pay 30 mil for a small house should a different system be in place ....
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