Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Hrimfaxi]

Several people in my alliance started complaining when I used LB 1 on the first boss. Someone whined that it should be saved to "LB3 pull the queen." Luckily another DPS spoke up and pointed out the LB bar drains on boss engagement. -__-

That is the same for Midas Cuff of son. Once you engage with Vortexer, the previous LB will be drained so its better to use on Swindler. I never noticed it till a few weeks ago so i always remember to use it before going to Vortexer.

[Chiramu]

Several people in my alliance started complaining when I used LB 1 on the first boss. Someone whined that it should be saved to "LB3 pull the queen." Luckily another DPS spoke up and pointed out the LB bar drains on boss engagement. -__-

First boss of what btw?

[ChandraNoctis]

Leveling roulette on WHM - the Aery..
Got matched with a pre-made group of PLD, SNM, BRD - tank is helping dps, and giving advice etc so I kept quiet.

Tank did a big pull at the start - which would be ok except he paused part way through then changed his mind (so I had already healed/pulled aggro). Then things were dying really really slowly. I ran out of mana - wipe. Kind of my fault for healing too soon in the pull though.

First boss - neither dps pass the tether to the statue - not once. After the first time I started to take it off them but still the bard died at least twice due to the tether. Again took a really really long time. I ran out of mana to raise and finished with just the tank and me. Tank never picks up any of the adds.

Second boss, I was trying to dps a lot to speed things up, got low mana so slowed down the dps so I could heal, bomb add ate three clouds (dps were attacking it just way too slow). Manage to keep tank and myself alive and kill boss.

Nidhogg,

First wipe - I run out of mana trying to heal Estinien through the adds (all adds are attacking him directly - little evidence of any dps).
At this point I turned on the parser since i wasn't sure the dps were actually doing anything much at all. Tank complains that I am spamming heals unnecessarily.. Bard appeared to just be auto attacking...

Second wipe - I get jailed - dps gets it down by maybe 1/3.

Third wipe - kind of my fault - I die when running between tank and dps (since of course they won't stand within range of each other) and hit some lag at a bad time.

Fourth wipe - get through adds thanks to SMN LB (not even close otherwise - small adds still up with both large adds). We had gone through three sable jail cycles before getting to the adds - I didn't even know that could happen. Again I run out of mana and wipe. I couldn't take any more and bailed - which I hate to do.

The parse results? Bard is doing double digit dps... SNM is doing only slight more - barely into triple digits. They were a bit under geared but not that bad really. Tank was ok - didn't try to pick up adds but was basically ok otherwise.

How is that even possible - even auto attacking should be more than that. Ifrit was doing more dps than the bard (also Ifrit???)...

Yeah I wasn't the best healer - it was late - my system was laggy and I was cranky - but double digit dps at 56? Really? It would have been better to just ignore the dps - let them die and dps with the tank only.

I felt bad because they were obviously fairly new, but I only have so much patience late in the evening... If they had appeared to have been putting in some effort I would have stayed.

[AnaviAnael]

Leveling roulette on WHM - Sohm Al....

I think you mean Aery.

I did an aery a while back on BLM with a SMN who was doing nothing but spamming ruin on the sable prices. I died every time it targeted me due to lack of DPS. (Probably would have helped if the healer helped get me out, but hey.)

[ChandraNoctis]

I think you mean Aery.

I did an aery a while back on BLM with a SMN who was doing nothing but spamming ruin on the sable prices. I died every time it targeted me due to lack of DPS. (Probably would have helped if the healer helped get me out, but hey.)

Oops yeah you are right! It's late lol...

They were basically a nice group, friendly and all that - just really really bad dps

[Erim-Nelhah]

Expert roulette, got Antitower. I'm on DRK, as usual. Got DRG+SMN dps and WHM healer. Should go fast, right? The first few pulls went ok - not as fast as they should have, but ok, even though the WHM did a bit of holy spam during my BP on a couple of them.

First boss, got 3 "frog" phases, so I decide not to do big pulls after that. Part 2 trash goes decently, but not as fast as I'm used to (certainly not as fast as I've seen SMNs do before).

Second boss, the rocks aren't dying very fast and I nearly have to stand in 2 AoEs during the second rock phase. Then I fail to notice I'm tethered and eat 2 blasts to the face right after that (oops). Healer is on point, tho, so I don't die. Once again, we get an extra phase. I put "..." in chat, and move on, keeping with small pulls. DPS doesn't speed up.

At Calcabrina, I ask the SMN to LB the second dollhouse phase so we can keep DPS up. He does, and we barely miss seeing the 3rd dollhouse. I tossed the comm to him, since he at least followed instructions, and after the first boss the WHM had seemed to forget where his "Holy" button had gone.

Maybe they were undergeared, but a cursory examination didn't show me that.

--Erim Nelhah

[Miste]

I really think blaming SE for the problem is a little unfair as it still happens with the bonus. They just don't want to run it and happily ditch people in a mandatory story dungeon due to laziness imo. Colour me strange but I'd feel bad if I ditched someone just trying to get though the story for the first time

Well it's just my opinion that it is still an imbalance problem because of the time spent versus reward. I don't think its unfair to blame them for certain aspects they didn't fully think through.

It still happens even with bonus because two of the other dungeons in the roulette not only give a higher base Eso reward, they also give a higher base Lore reward. So if you are doing level 60 to get Lore then ARF is the worst one for reward (including Nerverreap and Fractal, but those almost always take a lot less time to clear). So the more time spent ends up equaling less reward. Bad design I think.

Its not strange to feel bad I would too so I never leave ARF just because its ARF. I only left that dungeon one time and it was due to IRL circumstances. Every other time I have just completed it if I got it as my roulette. I just personally feel not all the blame should be on the players especially because of the grindy nature of capping tomes or farming Eso for relics and stuff. Efficiency becomes important to people.

Patch in about 24 hours yay!

[SpiritMuse]

bomb add ate three clouds (dps were attacking it just way too slow).

Isn't the bomb supposed to eat multiple clouds so that the boss' damage up buff remains somewhat controlled? Not sure what the problem is here.

[birdy_reene]

I still can't wrap my head around why so many people jump into 24-mans with the intention to be lazy just because it is somewhat faceroll content. The thing is, it stops being faceroll content when people completely ignore the mechanics ¬___¬


Like I did a VA run the other day and a blm on our team, as soon as the first boss started she just stood there only just inside the barrier as to not be locked out. She was of course ultimately kicked, after repeated attempts from people telling her to start fighting or get kicked.

yep I agree, they turn easy content hard

[Malicewolf]

Two stories!
1st one was a bit ago. Queued with friends for leveling roulette and we got cutters cry. About 3 or so pulls in, I start lagging. Bad. I see the disconnect sign pop up and I'm wailing away at mobs with no combos showing and nothing happening... great. We happened to all be in a voice chat together though, so it was quite humorous to hear them go "uh, you're not moving... WOAH now you're across the room!" At one point, i saw that a bomb was about to explode and I'm on my mic screaming "am I out of the AoE, am I out of it?!" and they're like, "yuuup, you're fine... except, those ground fissures keep hitting you... aaand you're dead". And this proceeded to happen almost throughout the entire dungeon. Never disconnected, just would wail away and then eventually, my screen would look like I was playing sonic the hedgehog on crack. Lead to some funny conversations in our voice chat though...

Other story, was in a bird farm for Bismark yesterday. We went through bout 8 or so times I'd say and I was getting a tad tired (especially since not a single drop had occurred yet ._.) So I tell them all, "I got 1 more in me if we can keep up the same speed we've been doing, so no one mess up!" Of course, I was just joking bout the messing up part (we were all friendly about it, no one took offense). Sooo, we're in there and it's the last part. We just killed the dragons and the bird ads are coming. Doing our usual thing and then bam! I honestly didn't even see the AoE marker, but there I am.... falling to my death. My co-tank immediately writes "no one mess up :P"
T_T
The shame!