3.3 AST adjustments

[Kabzy]

It cuts the other way too. They can't nerf SCH's damage the obvious way without nerfing SMN's damage as well. So they have to be really careful.

You don't need to worry about that. Potency wise there is no issue, which is proven with Scholar having the lowest DPS requirement in Stone, Sea, (something else beginning with S). So I highly doubt they would ever look into nerfing any Arcanist abilities. The 'problem' lies in the fact that Scholars have good MP management, and more importantly a fairy aiding the main healer while they can DPS.


I say 'problem', because as a Scholar I personally don't really see it as one. It's not Scholar's problem that they are designed to fill an off-healing role so well, and I believe SE sees this as they are not nerfing us, but slowly making Noct. Astrologian better. People need to consider that eventually we will have more healing jobs and we can't always see it as 'make x as good as WHM/SCH combo'. I like that they mentioned in the famitsu thingy that they are going to look to make AST/WHM a more viable pairing, that's the direction they should take instead of bringing out the nerf gun.

For the record, after playing all three healers I don't believe Scholar is overpowered, but I do agree that it's the best of the three current healers. And there's no problem with that, SE can balance as much as they want but one job is always going to be on top.

[DarkmoonVael]

You don't need to worry about that. Potency wise there is no issue, which is proven with Scholar having the lowest DPS requirement in Stone, Sea, (something else beginning with S). So I highly doubt they would ever look into nerfing any Arcanist abilities. The 'problem' lies in the fact that Scholars have good MP management, and more importantly a fairy aiding the main healer while they can DPS.


I say 'problem', because as a Scholar I personally don't really see it as one. It's not Scholar's problem that they are designed to fill an off-healing role so well, and I believe SE sees this as they are not nerfing us, but slowly making Noct. Astrologian better. People need to consider that eventually we will have more healing jobs and we can't always see it as 'make x as good as WHM/SCH combo'. I like that they mentioned in the famitsu thingy that they are going to look to make AST/WHM a more viable pairing, that's the direction they should take instead of bringing out the nerf gun.

For the record, after playing all three healers I don't believe Scholar is overpowered, but I do agree that it's the best of the three current healers. And there's no problem with that, SE can balance as much as they want but one job is always going to be on top.

Rebalancing for healers that would make Noct.AST absolutely viable would probably need to wait until next expansion. No matter what they do with AST's current abilites, they can not make it compete with SCH efficiency in, well, everything. SCH will always have the advantage over GCD management compared to N.AST in the 3.x series due to the amount of lustrates it has at its disposal as well as indomnibility. It has a scary throughput of healing solely through the fairy whilst the SCH dps's that Noct.AST can not compete with. SCH has too much of the good stuff when it comes raid abilities, only in so much that it would then require the devs to acknowledge this fact when developing new healer classes and design said new classes with this in mind.

AST main issue has always been and will always be how it was designed in the first place, with two sects that mimic the style of SCH and WHM. It should have been first and foremost a unique healer its own right. And quite honestly the devs should have accepted that they should be designing a healer that would try and compete for one of the healing style positions in a raid group (i.e. main healer or the "off-healer") rather than what we have now which seems to be a nightmare to balance and will always be a nightmare to balance.

Yup, like Kabzy said, no problem about the sch actually. It's not OP. Maybe it's the other two who needs to be buffed a bit but nerfing isn't everytime the good solution. And people who's talking about the sch being too OP are happy to have it in their team, actually.
But i do agree that the job is really well made ! Yet, i only see two things that could be remade : the Silence useless skill of Selene, and Dissipation which is a bit too situational.

Saying that SCH isnt OP but then that the other two healers need to be buffed to it level is a little bit of an oxymoronic statement!

Raid group will always go for whats powerful. We see this with MCH at the moment vastly outweighing BRD in raids, and most groups wouldnt raid without a WAR, a class that many tank mains also suggest is OP compared to the other two tank available .

The fact that SCH position in raids is currently set in stone suggests the power of this class compared to the other healer looking to compete for this slot (Noct.AST). Many solutions to this: nerf SCH (worst solution), buff Noct.AST(very difficult but probably whats going to happen over time) or design the new class properly in the first place (best thing that should have happened).