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    Quote Originally Posted by Musashidon View Post
    They will most likely take out the storyline requirement to enter ishgard so people can go there and get the jobs.
    They better not. They need to keep the ARR>HW gating and I explained why I think this couple times in here. I am fine with opening up every piece of new content like cities, zones and such after that gating without requiring the completion of the HW 3.0+ main storyline but the end of ARR into HW one needs to remain so RMT and their armies of bots stay the hell out of those new zones and cities. I hate RMT and bots with a vengeance, they destroyed the enjoyment of leveling and playing a gatherer class in ARR, I am very happy they and their armies are still stuck outside of HW zones and content which is thanks to the forced story gating which included some hard level 50 trials and dungeons as part of that story which they could not just bot their way through.

    They could add new future classes to ARR zones instead of HW/future zones plus other game features added to ARR zones and cities but in terms of new cities and zones etc...I think the requirement of passing HW gating aka story and it's more difficult level 50 dungeons/trials should still be required. The current gating works and the RMT bot armies are stuck/trapped in ARR content because they cannot clear all the story and level 50 hard dungeons and trials en masse, likewise the RMT city /say and /shout chat spammers infecting ARR cities also remain locked out of HW cities even if does not stop them sending /tells one by one. It does keep them out and it would be a dumb move to remove that gating, opening up HW and future content to RMT bot infestation like is the case still for ARR zones which they remain trapped in.

    I have yet to see a single RMT bot army in HW zones, if SE remove the current gating that would change instantly and HW and future zones would be flooded with them like ARR zones are. I will always and passionately argue against anything that allows that to happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snugglebutt View Post
    the RMT bot armies are stuck/trapped in ARR content because they cannot clear all the story
    It's not the story gating that's keeping bots out of Ishgard. It's the fact that they'd have to make another purchase. Bot-scripting quests is easy, and it's clearly already being done or the bots wouldn't be in level 50 content either (which already takes a much longer series of quests). But they're trying to make money and aren't going to spend any more than they have to to do so. So long as their bots can make enough gil to sell while in ARR regions, they're not going to buy an expansion.

    I agree with all your conclusions and with your secondary reasons, but this, which seems to be your primary reason, is bogus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niwashi View Post
    It's not the story gating that's keeping bots out of Ishgard. It's the fact that they'd have to make another purchase. Bot-scripting quests is easy, and it's clearly already being done or the bots wouldn't be in level 50 content either (which already takes a much longer series of quests). But they're trying to make money and aren't going to spend any more than they have to to do so. So long as their bots can make enough gil to sell while in ARR regions, they're not going to buy an expansion.

    I agree with all your conclusions and with your secondary reasons, but this, which seems to be your primary reason, is bogus.
    It is not specifically that they have to click through some dialogues of the quest, that is not what I was referring to but it is the fact those quests involve tricky/hard level 50 dungeons and trials that are part of those quests which stops them from botting their armies en masse through into HW. I doubt RMT care much about the cost of HW expansion which is very cheap already, even cheaper when bought in large quantities that reduces the overall cost via discounts for large orders and would allow them more ways to make gil, especially since most of the gathering materials and such from HW zones remaining far more valuable still due to no incursion/saturation by RMT bot armies into those zones currently. RMT bot armies still suck dry the ARR market value for most bottable materials but the HW materials remain fairly untouched by them thanks to the gating.
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