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  1. #11
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    Ultimatecalibur's Avatar
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    Kakita Ucalibur
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 86
    Quote Originally Posted by Zfz View Post
    I'm wearing the full beginner tank set with the rare dungeon helm and belt, ethereal sword, rare shield, and the max-level accessories I can find at this level. Stat points invested in VIT. Basically I should be at maximum gear for this level. But I've ran into DPS who can easily, easily out-threat me at the start of a pull even on a mob that I pulled with Shield Lob.
    Please note that the Brand New gear (save for the Ring) and Plundered gear is ilevel 17. Sastasha syncs people down to level 18 and i18, Tamtara level 19/i19, Copperbell Mines level 20/i20 and Halatali down to level 23/i23. Also all post-50 gear has 2 secondary stats so pretty much anyone synced will have far more secondaries than even the best equipped newbie.

    Either late in 2.5 or during HW levelsyncing was also changed. Gear is no longer synced to NQ stats.
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  2. #12
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    Mewmew Rielle
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 90
    Yeah, as a not-so-great-tank myself I've found that flash helps a lot more.

    Occasionally I lose enmity but if I'm paying enough attention and see I'm struggling I spam flash :x

    For some reason I seem to have trouble keeping enmity with Marauder though
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  3. #13
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    Character
    Celenir Istarkh
    World
    Atomos
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    I see!

    Thanks for all the replies! I didn't know about the new syncing and completely forgot about the different syncing levels. Will switch to a Flash spam in future if I get the same situation again.
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  4. #14
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    Auron Vale
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 90
    It might help to mark your targets. Or at least the first one. Focus your enmity combo on the first enemy and flash twice between each combo. The DPS might be hot on your tail, but by the time the first enemy is down, you should have enough enmity built up on the others to not have to worry about losing it. This worked for me on my last character when I mained a PLD.
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  5. #15
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    Character
    Cat Mommy
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 90
    When I was first leveling BRD I was pulling aggro like it was my job. I was getting super lucky with crits and OGC. The PLD was getting super flustered and apologizing. I told him to relax and let me tank. I was wearing my lvl 60 DRK title and told him I've tanked this dungeon a million times before xD
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  6. #16
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    Character
    Charlemagne Martell
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    Malboro
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 80
    The answer to your question is yes, low level tanks received a significant enmity nerf in the last patch when the developers decided to split AP across VIT and STR. This has been discussed at length in several threads.

    By all rights the developers should rollback the changes.
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  7. #17
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    Character
    Eonkhui Malaguld
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by therpgfanatic View Post
    The answer to your question is yes, low level tanks received a significant enmity nerf in the last patch when the developers decided to split AP across VIT and STR. This has been discussed at length in several threads.

    By all rights the developers should rollback the changes.
    Please no. Paladin should get their enmity modifier at level 30, not 40. And that's about it.
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  8. #18
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    seekified's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Karis Angara
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 80
    GLA in particular is very rough early on. I took mine from 22 (where it's been for two years) to 34 last week to get Awareness for my WAR.

    I'd heard GLA/PLD wasn't very fun until 40, but damn - the Flash spam is real. Target marking became a lot more important between Toto-rak and Brayflox because prolonged AoE spams and people attacking different mobs was seriously hard to handle.
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  9. #19
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    Character
    Sir Garun
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 60
    I'd make sure to use fight or flight on the bosses and flash as needed on the packs. If you are in a situation with "that dps," try to target what they are targeting to keep hate. And if you still can't pull off of him/her, it's probably not a big deal as they will probably survive anyways in a low level dungeon. Though they really should give the tank stances in the level 10 class quests to make it easier on the newer players since low level tanking without the gear is too much for a beginner.
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  10. #20
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    Character
    Sida Bajihri
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    There is gear discrepancy all along when leveling between people who are on a natural level for dungeon with best gear they can have, vs down synced players. I seem to recall toto rak was especially bad with this. The first level it can be run is one or two levels before tanks get next gear tier, so they are already running 2-3 level lower gear even if they are wearing the maximum gear they can at the time. Anyone who's down synced to the dungeon is synced to the maximum level of it, taking them about 3-4 levels higher the tank and possibly up to 7 level difference in iLvl, even if the tank has highest gear available for them at the time.
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