Patch 3.3 (Trailer) Discussion (2.x - 3.2 Spoilers)

[Belhi]

I totally agree with you on the MSQ stuff. Way to look like a badass. I'm looking forward to that cutscene. I've even been picking out my DRG glamour for the scene today (have to fight Nidhogg as a DRG naturally). It looks promising as a dramatic conclusion. I still think it's very likely we will save Estinien in one form or another. I still kind of expect some twist at the end but at this point its possible it might not actually be in the MSQ but perhaps in the Side quest Warring Triad stuff.

Weeping City looks good and though Im not a fan of all the gear sets, I really like the tank set. Mhachi technology is... interesting. It will be curious to learn more. I'm thinking perhaps Ozma might end up being some type of Mhachi control device for accessing Scatach's home base though I really doubt that the end boss actually is Scatch. I think its more likely its some type of old bound Voidsent that controls the area. After all the stuff we are fighting seems to be Mhachi defense systems rather than agents of Scatach.

Moogles.... I'll wait and see if they can actually redeem the little blighters.

The Hullbreaker HM appeals to me a lot more now I know who the last boss is. Its like a nice continuation from our duel with Raubahn in 3.2. Its nice we get to challenge some of the Eorzean Alliance's top fighters.

Hildibrand will be fun though I'm not overly excited. The Warring Triad sidequests interest me more. We get the next Scholasticate stuff in 3.4 according to Yoshi P.

Field of Glory could be interesting. Im incline to wait and see if their is any interesting lore tied to it. After all the lore behind the other Frontlines locations was pretty interesting.

It never occurred to me that the low level and how that would impact on them being able to use Edda. Its a good point. Perhaps its not Edda but it will give us hints and what led her down the path she went down.

Im actually wondering if Sohr Khai will actually be us beating Hraesvelgr into listening to us rather than simply him testing us. Basically we go a fewrounds till he finally calms down enough to listen. Its interesting in the MSQ he was standing next to two dragons. One was Vidhofnir. The other looked like the friendly dragon from the Darkscale FATE chain in the Churning Mists. Also interestingly in the Final Steps of Faith, those adds look like Darkscale's underlings. It would be nice if that FATE chain ties into the MSQ.

[CyrilLucifer]

Nothing about it in the trailer, but we all know the best part of this patch, right? Right?

Best
Friend
Eli
Forever
Part 2.5!

And guaranteed survival until at least 3.5.

But seriously, I do wonder why that isn't in the trailer. The fact that we're fighting Garleans again is a pretty big deal in the larger scale. I'm wondering if there's a plot twist they're not ready to reveal yet.

(also, those icky healer/caster Bellbottoms from the 24-man. I thought we were done with those forever).

[Xenos88]

Ive heard rumors going around stating that Keftka may make an appearance with the garleans

[Cilia]

I totally agree with you on the MSQ stuff. Way to look like a badass. I'm looking forward to that cutscene. I've even been picking out my DRG glamour for the scene today (have to fight Nidhogg as a DRG naturally). It looks promising as a dramatic conclusion. I still think it's very likely we will save Estinien in one form or another. I still kind of expect some twist at the end but at this point its possible it might not actually be in the MSQ but perhaps in the Side quest Warring Triad stuff.

That's what makes us a bona fide hero though. It's not the divine blessing, martial might, or ability to topple impossibly powerful foes. We advance toward what lesser souls retreat from... even if we're probably just as terrified, especially since Estinien is our in-universe dear friend.

I gotta do it in my now-iconic crimson (Dalamud) red Chaos set. (Not like I can do it as anything else, given I've taken a break from the game in general and just started playing again to level [MRD/WAR]/[PGL/MNK]...)

The skirmish with the Garleans and van Hydrus probably isn't in the trailer because it doesn't add anything (it's just an instanced fight in the ARF a la the Vault fight from 3.1) and doesn't relate to the story (the final battle against Nidhogg and the Horde). It might be important to the overarching Triad plot (and thus the overall plot of the game), but it's not a big deal right now.

Palace of the Dead is going to be in 3.3.

[Frederick22]

Palace of the Dead is going to be in 3.3.

3.35

Also adding, not sure if anyone notice it. But it seems that the fight against Nidhogg will take on different parts ot the Steps of Faith and not just on once place.

[Belhi]

That's what makes us a bona fide hero though. It's not the divine blessing, martial might, or ability to topple impossibly powerful foes. We advance toward what lesser souls retreat from... even if we're probably just as terrified, especially since Estinien is our in-universe dear friend.

I can already imagine Fray's opinion on that. :P

[Cilia]

I'll start off with something I haven't seen anyone else mention yet; Estinihogg's Ultimate. Or, rather, the Blood of the Dragon effect that surrounds him as he charges the attack. Now, I had assumed that the coils was representative of Midagrdsormr, a show of him granting you some of his power and all. But it seems to be something that maybe all of his children can do as well. (Then there's the whole Nael Deus Darnus thing, but others have mentioned it; I'm leaning towards that transformation being related to the Celestial Dragons as well. Primals do retain some bit of the one they're made from...)

I actually did notice that Estinien-Nidhogg charging his new super looked an awful lot like the Blood of the Dragon buff, I just didn't know how to describe it since I don't even have the basic DRG Jump, hehe. I noted that it looked like a supercharged, ultra-destructive variant of the Dragonsong Dive, which also includes the energy tendrils associated with the Blood of the Dragon. Estinien-Nidhogg's are just Nidhogg's signature purple/pink instead of the blue/white that comes from Midgardsormr's power.

I'm not quite ready to say that all of the First Brood are capable of the sort of things Nidhogg is doing / has done. It seems unprecedented, really, which is why Alphinaud is so desperate to find a way to save Estinien. deus Darnus is pretty unprecedented as well, though (a[n opposite sex] clone tempered by a Primal vs. a normal mortal possessed by a dragon), so who knows. Still, I'm going to chalk deus Darnus up to Bahamut's Primal status when we encounter him as opposed to outright possession in the case of Estinien-Nidhogg.

I find it curious that Nidhogg starts the fight in his pure draconic form, then shifts into a hybrid form for his super. I wonder if he'll remain in that state...

I can already imagine Fray's opinion on that. :P

"Recognize that which is important... and forsake all that which is not."

... wasn't that it?