WAR's 2.1 changes.

[Sarcatica]

but PLD's damage output was not that low compared to WAR.

PLD is still the worst DPS tank ever since 2.0, no matter how pretty people want to word it. I can guarantee you when SE releases a hard DPS check like Gordias, people will complain again. PLD is by far the most played but all of tanks the worse DPS dealer. Midas has been great for PLD/MNK (added safety) setup so far since DPS checks aren't tough at all, let's see how it holds to the next raid patch.

See logs if you aren't convinced at all. It's 100% truth that PLD sucks at DPS-ing.

[Reynhart]

PLD is still the worst DPS tank ever since 2.0, no matter how pretty people want to word it. I can guarantee you when SE releases a hard DPS check like Gordias, people will complain again.

Did you actually read my suggestion ?
The idea is, again, to adjust PLD so that it would be much much sturdier. To the point where you'd need far less healing when two tanks are still needed, so one healer will DPS almost full time, or even to solo tank, thus bringing an additionnal DPS.
If this new setup brings the same overall DPS, it doesn't matter if PLD's personal DPS is lower than WAR or DRK.

Oh, and by the way, PLD does not suck at DPS-ing under Sword Oath.

[Ultimatecalibur]

See logs if you aren't convinced at all. It's 100% truth that PLD sucks at DPS-ing.

Dark Knight and Paladin DpS numbers on the logs are actually fairly close together. The top scoring Paladin on Hummelfaust is actually above the top Dark Knight.

Going off the top 10 dps numbers it seems that Paladin does about 10% less damage than Dark Knight which does 10% less damage than Warrior.

[ADVSS]

i know we're talking about tanks, but i feel like how they balance dps is based on several things like damage vs utility, damage over ease of play, etc. So we got the damage line up of the tanks 10% difference is good, now can we talk utility and mitigation between the three? How about playability and skill required(cant use positionals here, since thats just the dps metric it seems) do they really fit as war most dps, least mit and utility, drk - in the middle, pld least dps highest mit and utility... cause i feel like this is the "place" they want the tanks to be...why do i feel like something is off by quite a bit? this is just my opinion, maybe its wrong but drk doesnt really feel like the middle ground here...

[Sarcatica]

Dark Knight and Paladin DpS numbers on the logs are actually fairly close together. The top scoring Paladin on Hummelfaust is actually above the top Dark Knight.

Going off the top 10 dps numbers it seems that Paladin does about 10% less damage than Dark Knight which does 10% less damage than Warrior.

You forget to account for DPS bloat. Majority of the top DPS dealers will have the composition catered to themselves. Minus off Balance, double nin/mch and you will see where the gap is coming from.

[Ultimatecalibur]

You forget to account for DPS bloat. Majority of the top DPS dealers will have the composition catered to themselves. Minus off Balance, double nin/mch and you will see where the gap is coming from.

No, I didn't forget to account dps bloat. I came up with my inference by comparing groups with similar damage buff compositions (i.e. one War, one Nin, one Mch, no Astro).

Paladin's get roughly 1300, Dark Knights get about 1450 and Warriors get about 1600 in these compositions.