Bring back 18% Stoneskin

[Lorglath]

If they are already at full health at this point (Hello Cure II or Benefic II,) then adlo isn't doing anything. You use Stoneskin to mitigate an attack that would kill someone or to invest time from when you don't need it, to when you do (right after the tank buster.) If you have 4 seconds to cast a shield before a tank buster, 2.5 and 3 seconds are no different. How about when there is downtime in a fight? People are full health at this point.

Theres a 1 in 5 chance I'd crit adlo with my current stats.
9k, 3k, 3k, 3k, 3k. Vs 4.5k, 4.5k, 4.5k, 4.5k, 4.5k
21k vs 22.5k

So how is it, you want a class that can spam Cure II, a real medica, and a perm AOE Regen, to get a single target Shield that's greater than a shielding class, with less MP cost to boot?

Ok Fair enough, at this point after seeing some more info from scholars I can conceed 18% will be too much, but we do need something more than 10% stoneskin. We just can not do anything in mitigation situations, but scholars CAN do something in aoe situations.

[DarkmoonVael]

Ok Fair enough, at this point after seeing some more info from scholars I can conceed 18% will be too much, but we do need something more than 10% stoneskin. We just can not do anything in mitigation situations, but scholars CAN do something in aoe situations.

Er, WHM can cast stoneskin for mitigation........also has untraited virus and eye-for-an-eye.

Astro's are "passable" at both healing and mitigation strategies. I don't feel that WHM getting some form of useful mitigation takes anything away from them or would make it so no one took them.

Well for a start, AST are far more than passable for healing and mitigation.

Secondly this is what internal balance is about for healers. The devs even said it themselves when they explained the removal of granite skin and giving all healer pro-shell was so AST could compete against WHM for a healing spot in raid groups.

People are making the mistake of comparing an 18% stoneskin to a scholar's adlo. The choice is never between a white mage or scholar. The comparison which should be drawn is that between a whms 18% and an astros 10% stoneskin. As it stands, they both have the same mitigation. But changing the whms to 18% significantly tips the whm to be superior by a huge margin. It adds a big reason for people to take whm over astro (see: uplander doom) which is exactly what se said they didn't want to happen. It would give whms a bit too much utility on top of what they already have.

And on a side, people are incredibly underestimating schs aoe potential. Succor + indom is 700 potency worth of heals in 3 secs and the option of emergency tactics is there if necessary, as is deployment tactics and whispering dawn.

And this is exactly what i have been talking about with balance between three healers and not just between WHM vs SCH balancing. I am glad someone gets it!