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    I'm not sure why when the RNG part of progression in Aqua is brought up, people keep saying "it's only bonus content, why does it matter". Why can't something be challenging, fairly implemented, repeatable and rewarding? We already do dungeons and raids repeatedly every day/week, what is the problem with having new content to add to that cycle to break things up? Nobody is asking that the thing just be a free ride to floor 7 every time and be showered with tier V materia, red scrip mats and Ultima ponies. Just put some damn thought into the RNG portion other than "oh you're not psychic? Too bad jackass, try again next time".
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    *and yes, I realize RNG is the ultimate form of "fairness", I suppose I actually mean fair to the poor soul (s) that will undoubtedly pick wrong at the start almost every time.
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  3. #223
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    Indeed, instead of RNG, I'd prefer some sort of puzzle that gets progressively more difficult to complete as you go down levels (with less time to complete each puzzle).
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  4. #224
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    Indeed, instead of RNG, I'd prefer some sort of puzzle that gets progressively more difficult to complete as you go down levels (with less time to complete each puzzle).
    Ain't nobody got time for that.
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  5. #225
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    Ain't nobody got time for that.
    haha what really?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malakym View Post
    Why can't something be challenging, fairly implemented, repeatable and rewarding?
    Good thing they're releasing Palace of the Dead in 3.35, right?

    Challenging? Check, Palace gets progressively more difficult with each floor.
    Fairly implemented? Check, every player starts at the same point in the Palace, gear from outside the Palace doesn't grant any advantage.
    Repeatable? I assume it's repeatable as often as you'd want.

    Whether it's rewarding or not is something that isn't known yet, other than the bits of info that state something about gear obtained inside the Palace being usable as glamour.

    As for puzzles, people would just upload guides on how to do every single puzzle, making them much easier to do after the first few weeks, forcing SE to balance the rewards.
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  7. #227
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nezerius View Post
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    As for puzzles, people would just upload guides on how to do every single puzzle, making them much easier to do after the first few weeks, forcing SE to balance the rewards.
    it is possible to design puzzles where the general way to solve it is known, but the exact way to solve it is not and requires you figure it out in the moment.

    I also don't see that as a bad thing in comparison to RNG doors.
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  8. #228
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    haha what really?
    Its sad but true, people's AFK time is a sacred treasure that must be protected at all costs /s
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  9. #229
    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    haha what really?
    I was being pretentious, but yes, people really don't want to be bothered with puzzles. Look at how everyone wants to do everything quickly, have no caps on anything, get access to stuff instantly, and so forth. Puzzles would make people foam at the mouth. For those that would like to do the puzzles, having a puzzle in a dungeon that randomly spawns might not be the best thing and you'd have those that demand that you know the puzzles via youtube, so there's no joy in trying to figure out the puzzles blind when everyone else wants to rush for the gold.
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  10. #230
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    Are people seriously complaining that they might fail? Some of us don't want everything to be handed to us on a silver platter. >_>
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