we need a sword dps

[Ultimatecalibur]

Yes... having 3 tanks and 3 healers is quite... rubbish, I can deal with it til 4.0. Just look at the current meta, every group I've seen runs a WAR and SCH. Now look at the DPS side, its quite flexible.. sure there's a meta with the likes of MCH and NIN, but I've seen many groups run without these 2 jobs as well. I can't speak for Tanks and Healers, I haven't seen a single group without those 2 jobs, I'm sure there out there, but very few I can tell you. Creating 4 tanks and 4 healers MIGHT break needing these 2 essential jobs.

Not really. The main reason Warrior is essential is because of the Storm's Path/Storm's Eye debuffs. These allow Warrior + Dark Knight and Warrior + Paladin to be more optimal with any combination of healer and dps than Dark Knight + Paladin.
A 4th tank might make the current situation worse or end up leaving the current situation mostly unchanged. Warrior + Dark Knight/Paladin/New Tank being optimal is not a situation I want to see and Warrior/New Tank + Dark Knight/Paladin is hardly better than the current situation.

The healer problem is more because of how underpowered Noct stance shields are for PvE content in comparison to Scholar shields. White Mage + Astro(Noct) is just not as good as White Mage + Scholar or Astro(Diurnal) + Scholar even though it is still viable.

On Topic: I personally would like to see SAM Tank and RDM DPS using a Sword or Rapier of the likes, would satisfy both sides. Just my opinion though.

I'd rather see Samurai be a Katana wielding Maiming gear wearing slashing DpS with its main combo applying a version of Storm's Eye/Dancing Edge with one of its secondary combos applying a version of Storm's Path. This should solve the "Must have a Warrior" problem.

I'd like Red Mage to be a Rapier and Buckler wielding Scouting gear wearing melee piercing/magic support DpS.

[Katana190]

Not really. The main reason Warrior is essential is because of the Storm's Path/Storm's Eye debuffs. These allow Warrior + Dark Knight and Warrior + Paladin to be more optimal with any combination of healer and dps than Dark Knight + Paladin.
A 4th tank might make the current situation worse or end up leaving the current situation mostly unchanged. Warrior + Dark Knight/Paladin/New Tank being optimal is not a situation I want to see and Warrior/New Tank + Dark Knight/Paladin is hardly better than the current situation.

On the DPS side... they've done a fantastic job. Why doubt them on Tank and Healers? Hell, if you want to argue about the most optimal composition for DPS raiding its actually 2 Mch's, 1 Nin, 1 Drg. But we don't see that, like at all.

The healer problem is more because of how underpowered Noct stance shields are for PvE content in comparison to Scholar shields. White Mage + Astro(Noct) is just not as good as White Mage + Scholar or Astro(Diurnal) + Scholar even though it is still viable.

This isn't the only reason SCH is so viable.. the noct AST shields are actually stronger then SCH shields if not crited. Its all the utilty it brings, being able to spread a single target shield onto the whole party + burst heals + pet healer + highly sustained DPS while keeping HPS up. Its the same for WAR. WAR isn't only viable for its 2 debuffs or DPS, its actually very close to DRK DPS. What WAR does great is its self sustain on top of all its utility, having one of the most on demand mitigation skills in the game on top of its ability synergy.

I'd rather see Samurai be a Katana wielding Maiming gear wearing slashing DpS with its main combo applying a version of Storm's Eye/Dancing Edge with one of its secondary combos applying a version of Storm's Path. This should solve the "Must have a Warrior" problem.

I'd like Red Mage to be a Rapier and Buckler wielding Scouting gear wearing melee piercing/magic support DpS.

Your literally describing WAR as a DPS. Also 2 DPS? This is shooting the tank population in the foot.

Depends, are you fine with ALL the queues being just as bad as PVP queues. Because that;s what gonna happen if they release just DPS classes.

I'm glad someone cares. As much as people say not many people switched from DPS to DRK, it did do something for at least the first few weeks and peaked some peoples interest in changing roles and sticking to it, we can't just shove that point away.

[AlphaFox]

I fall under that category as well, had raised WAR to 50 but had no real interest in tanking, decided to give DRK a shot and now I am the MT for our Static Raid with zero issues jumping into dungeons as a tank. Just need a class that appeals to people to get them in the door and keep em, sure some may turn right back around but if even a percent of those people stay instead of staying as a DPS or Healer, I call it a win.

[Morzy]

There already is a sword-ish DPS. Rogue. Sure, they're rather short swords, but still, sharp bladed thingies!

Seriously though, I'd like to ask... do we REALLY need yet another DPS?

Daggers are not swords. Come on dude.

[Morzy]

I just hope SAM uses a one handed sword. Truthfully I want a freelancer.

Why do we have a gun wielding DPS before a simple sword DPS?

[jomoru]

So to answer your question with a another question, do we need really a new Tank or a Healer class aswell?

Tanks have the right to novelty too.

[jomoru]

Daggers are not swords. Come on dude.

If its as large as a wakazashi, gladius, or Machete its a sword.

[Gabrielleblanc]

If its as large as a wakazashi, gladius, or Machete its a sword.

Basically all the daggers in this game are that size. Still Classified as daggers.

[Alacran]

I ask this in all honesty why do we need a sword DPS class? Many ask for it, to say it wouldn't be popular would just flat out wrong, but in looking at the iconology of the sword one has to admit that the fantasy of the sword lends it's self to those commonly seen in front of the enemy (i.e tanks)





I am not developer, or any such creator of popular media, however without any of those credentials I feel that the reason two of the thirteen jobs wielding swords was not a mistake. Simply as a way of conveying a character as a hero, the image a swordsmen fighting against evil is just iconic.

Conversely the look of a sword through... lets say back...


(i was actually surprised i had a bit of issue finding a sword to the back image that was not dagger size)

looks much less heroic and somewhat villainous. I am admittedly more than likely wrong and i thank everyone before hand for telling me so... However imo in the drive to paint the picture Sword wielding hero, it is simply easier to put the blade in the hands of the person in front. Even if it means giving them the responsibility of standing there.

[Morzy]

If its as large as a wakazashi, gladius, or Machete its a sword.

I want a freelancer dude. Don't sit there and tell me rogue fulfills this just because they fit your description of a sword wielding class.