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  1. #11
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    bass9020's Avatar
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    Versatile Bottom
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    Faerie
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    Thats the point though, a little bit more work to make a far more accessible and used system is less "resource per head" intensive, which makes it more appealing to produce
    I agree if they are going to do it they should do it right and include all jobs that have pets. Summoners had it the worst though due to all the primals ingame and not getting anymore. I'd rather them take the time needed to have the system for all jobs but they feel summoner is top priority atm.
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  2. #12
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    Nexas Uthenera
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    Midgardsormr
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    Scholar Lv 61
    I hope and pray they do carbuncle glamours for scholar.
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  3. #13
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    Nexas Uthenera
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    Sorry for the double post...

    But it wouldn't be fair to supply glamours to only half of the arcanists out there (summoner) and not to the other half (scholar).

    Even though we choose different paths, we all share the same roots, and still remember where we came from.

    I say carbuncles for all
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  4. #14
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    Sir Rawrz
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Made a thread specifically about SCH glamour when the system was announced.
    Pet Glamour and SCH (Live Letter)

    I would really like SCH to get carby, when/if SMN does. Later, when SMN has gotten their last actual egi, I would hope the dev team could see the positive impact the system has on pet classes, and expand more glamour options onto SCH (Fairy palette swaps, possible male fairy) and MCH bit options.

    Personally, I want carby back. But allot of people want some other options, so if the devs are willing to give more people a shot at customizing their pet, more power and appreciation to them. :3
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  5. #15
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    Blackcanary's Avatar
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    Rogue Fuki
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    Shiva
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Will it be more than just a Egi Gloumor system though? Because I'm not sure I want Shiva Egi to just have the same attacks as Garuda Egi even if it is a glamour I want her to be unique and special. This hole Glamour Egi system just sound lazy to me like it sounds like they really can't be ass to put the work in and make decent new EGIs that have a real reason to be used. That's if I am correct about the whole system.
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  6. #16
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    Taisai Jin
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    Twintania
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    Lancer Lv 64
    If SE wants to justify putting more resources into this, all they need to do is give us more Summoner-like enemies... If, for example, we get Snowcloak (Hard) in 3.4, that dungeon is going to need some bosses... Lets kill two birds with one stone, and have one of the bosses be Shiva-Egi, complete with a full host of combat animations ready for Summoner to get her through Egi-Glamours... Can apply similar thinking to the rest of the Egi and Carbuncle...

    As for Scholar, it should actually be fairly easy to do... Healer and Support pet animations are fairly basic, and they can likely just copy the Caster pet animations (which Carbuncle already has) for a starter... I'd really like having a healer Carbuncle, I miss Healing Ruby...

    I'd still like some confirmation on how exactly they're going to work the system though... I expect I'll be disappointed with how they chose to work it... I'd like an offhand item that determines my summon, but I suspect they'll just have us talk to an NPC to revert back to Carbuncle, with the red Carbuncle model for Summon III, which will probably kill any excitement I might have for the proper Egi-Glamour system, since it'll probably end up just being a case of swapping Garuda-Egi for Ramuh-Egi, for example...
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  7. #17
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    Choco Feru
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    Summoners should check their privilege!
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  8. #18
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gokuhan View Post
    I could be wrong, but I believe SCH may be getting Carby along with the SMN. As far as MCH goes, I don't believe they have been mentioned at all.
    I doubt that SCH is getting any love in the near-term. Giving SMN Carby is relatively easy - all the animations are already there for Summon and Summon II, with the exception of the Enkindle moves. They'll need to whip up some new animations for Summon III, but that's just one Carby to deal with.

    For SCH, they'd need to create new animations for each of Selene's and Eos's moves.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackcanary View Post
    Is will be more than just a Egi Gloumor system though? Because I'm not sure I want Shiva Egi to just have the same attacks as Garuda Egi but even if it is a glamour I want her to be unique and special. This hole Glamour Egi system just sound lazy to me like it sounds like they really can't be ass to put the work in and make decent new EGIs that have a real reason to be used. That's if I am correct about the whole system.
    I'm afraid you may be setting yourself up for disappointment. The new pet glamours are exactly that: glamour. They do not change the functionality of the pets any more than glamouring a swimsuit over your plate mail changes the functionality of the plate mail. Compare Emerald Carbuncle to Garuda-Egi - they have exactly the same moves with exactly the same effects, but perform them in different ways.

    Most likely they will have different animations more appropriate to their appearance. For example, if Leviathan-Egi were to be the glamour for Titan-Egi, it might replace Mountain Buster (Titan spins, hitting nearby enemies for increased enmity) with Tail Whip (Leviathan swims in a circle, hitting nearby enemies for increased enmity). Earthen Fury would be replaced with Tidal Wave, leaving a pool of turbulent water instead of a pool of razed earth.

    But brand new abilities with different effects? No, that is very unlikely. If they had any intention of doing that, they could have given us new summons altogether. No, SE has decided to go the route of building up the SMN herself, not the SMN's pets. It is quite likely that the three pets we have are all we're ever going to get, though it's possible we may one day get additional abilities for those pets (there's still four free slots on the pet crosshotbar, after all!).
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  9. #19
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    Ertai Spelldragon
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    Diabolos
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Only summoner has a reason to receive more summon pets, but scholar and mech have none, other than, "If they get it, so should we." If you want to convince Square you need a stronger argument than the ones you are currently posting.

    The reason why they are getting pet glamours is because during the 2.0 series Yoshi P. and the development team teased at Summoner's getting more summons, but when 3.0 came and summoners realized they are not getting new pets because of valid reasons they were a little discouraged. In time they asked for a Egi glamour system and square realizing their mistake agreed.
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  10. #20
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    Mimi Nono
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    Moogle
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    Summoner Lv 60
    Just want to say that i think the whole "revert back to carby" thing that i seem to read everywhere, look, feel and taste like a bad joke.
    As a summoner, i think we are here because of the lack of new summons. Reverting back to something we had and laid aside, will not bring us anywhere we want. I mean, we grew, since Carbuncle; didn't we?
    Will the phrase "Please, look backward to it." mean something? Nope!

    But that's just me.
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