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    Quote Originally Posted by Aviars View Post
    I find it funny you claim the warrior is lagging while everyone on their team is also complaining about what was happening in that game, you can see it in the video. But you know, continue to come up with explanations you have little evidence of.
    I'm pretty sure that Bananajuice is pretty well known as a laggy player. The other player specifically complained about binds and its pretty easy to either A: cast esuna/leeches/ED or B: get hit by someone which is probably likely considering what a gong show that game looked to be. You seem to also have little evidence, maybe everyone should just start recording all of their matches against Sakura. You guys can do it, I have faith.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardelia_Lancaster View Post
    I'm pretty sure that Bananajuice is pretty well known as a laggy player. The other player specifically complained about binds and its pretty easy to either A: cast esuna/leeches/ED or B: get hit by someone which is probably likely considering what a gong show that game looked to be. You seem to also have little evidence, maybe everyone should just start recording all of their matches against Sakura. You guys can do it, I have faith.
    little evidence = video with proof of hacking

    Also nice dodge on not addressing the fact other players on the team were complaining about the hacking, it wasn't just Bananajuice. But hey I understand it might be hard to accept the fact that a close friend might be hacking, must be tough for you to accept the facts.

    It is also ironic you try to paint the warrior as a laggy player with pretty much zero evidence other than your word, keep trying buddy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aviars View Post
    little evidence = video with proof of hacking

    Also nice dodge on not addressing the fact other players on the team were complaining about the hacking, it wasn't just Bananajuice. But hey I understand it might be hard to accept the fact that a close friend might be hacking, must be tough for you to accept the facts.

    It is also ironic you try to paint the warrior as a laggy player with pretty much zero evidence other than your word, keep trying buddy.
    Yeah 1 video with "proof" where proof equals 2 stuns that can be explained by latency (especially because Sakura would have no reason to use purify with 1 second left, he isn't an idiot.) The heavy is weird, but I don't believe that is conclusive proof of hacking. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. If SE thinks it is, they'll ban him. You say that I am trying to paint the warrior as a laggy player, but it's not just me. Other people have seen it too. Not that being laggy is a crime, but it does make him being the sole video source something to be skeptical of. I would like to see further videos, but apparently there are none. Since in my 300+ matches with him as previously stated, I have not seen a single thing resembling what anyone is complaining about nor what is in the sole video provided as proof. While you are at it, you might as well start investigating the three other players in the top 100 with a win rate of 75% or higher, since that's fishy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardelia_Lancaster View Post
    stuff.
    If you look on the guys channel there are actually two videos. Also you can purify for the sole purpose of removing debuffs, or your friend may have realized running around that much with a 4 second stun is too obvious and panic purified, you know he isn't a idiot right? You can obviously see he was feeling pressured because 5 second later he uses attunement.

    Also your experiences with involve non-ranked pvp and pve. You have zero idea what he does in ranked games.

    Again you keep painting the warrior as being laggy, you saying that he is laggy and you saying other people say it isn't proof
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aviars View Post
    If you look on the guys channel there are actually two videos. Also you can purify for the sole purpose of removing debuffs, or your friend may have realized running around that much with a 4 second stun is too obvious and panic purified, you know he isn't a idiot right? You can obviously see he was feeling pressured because 5 second later he uses attunement.

    Also your experiences with involve non-ranked pvp and pve. You have zero idea what he does in ranked games.

    Again you keep painting the warrior as being laggy, you saying that he is laggy and you saying other people say it isn't proof
    Yes, and the second video is even less convincing than the first. I watched both. And actually, I do have an idea of what he does in ranked games because we did ranked 4v4 with a team in the preseason before two people decided that they didn't enjoy feast that much. I paint the warrior as laggy because that's my experience; I have roughly 500 games of feast and have played with and against Bananajuice more than a few times and he always seems to be laggy. You are entitled to believe me, disagree with me, go cry in a corner or whatever else.

    And to Nezerius, I agree SE should go ahead and investigate. I just doubt that they will find anything conclusive. I'm sure that he gets reported all the time from his win-rate alone even if nothing weird happens in that specific match.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardelia_Lancaster View Post
    Yeah 1 video with "proof" where proof equals 2 stuns that can be explained by latency (especially because Sakura would have no reason to use purify with 1 second left, he isn't an idiot.) The heavy is weird, but I don't believe that is conclusive proof of hacking. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. If SE thinks it is, they'll ban him. You say that I am trying to paint the warrior as a laggy player, but it's not just me. Other people have seen it too. Not that being laggy is a crime, but it does make him being the sole video source something to be skeptical of. I would like to see further videos, but apparently there are none. Since in my 300+ matches with him as previously stated, I have not seen a single thing resembling what anyone is complaining about nor what is in the sole video provided as proof. While you are at it, you might as well start investigating the three other players in the top 100 with a win rate of 75% or higher, since that's fishy.
    It's still enough proof that SE should consider investigating your friend to ensure if he was cheating or not (running through stuns/normal run speed with heavy/suspicious win rate), but I'm not sure if they care enough about PvP to start investigating like that. The same goes for anyone else with win rates that looks suspicious, despite the fact that those others don't have any other proof going against them.

    But for now, I don't see any point in defending this guy, with the current evidence that's stacked against him.
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