Wow, no mention of Auction house / MW improvements

[Fouluryu]

The poll awhile back shown more people cared for a redesign than they did an AH.

They already stated they're adjusting the Market Wards and will implement a delivery system when they fix the servers, which is why they should just move the UI client side so they can incorporate the DS that much sooner. AH is unneeded as they can just continue to adjust the MW.

A poll can be a misconception or lied. There are ways to manipulate a poll vote. Here's let me make it child friendly for you to understand:

Pros of having an AH:

Easy access
Easy search.
Easy to find items such as HQ.
Supply and demand (number of items) takes effect on it's own showing how many are selling = less or more likely to lower/raise price meaning if there are more of that item chances are price falls, less of that item, price rises.
There aren't annoying people listing 999,999,999.
Proper Item price history.
Supply & demand common sense applied to community.
Benefiting for crafters quickly getting the items needed to craft.
Little to no lag searching the item needed and bought.


Cons of having an AH:

RMT Camp the AH and or using bots scripts buying/selling/ of the following: AH price control (aka supply and demand), buying items off players who mistakenly or accident list a price bought off and resold for a full price.
When items on at are "0" players can manipulate prices by selling their own item and buying under their name to reset or change price history.
Best solution would be to have GM to be put to work investigating suspicious behavior of people messing with the AH.

Pros of having wards:

Finally able to search for items.
List of characters who are selling it.
Statistics lowest/highest for sale.
Different sections department (subject) of items/equipment that are sold).
Able to have two retainers to hold/sell items.

Cons of having wards:

Takes mass of amount of time of searching, gathering multiple items, and warping to the seller.
Most sellers obnoxiously sell their items in SPAM of "999,999,999" to show off or annoy.
There is no price history.
Economy constantly fluctuates making it difficult to know if a buyer/seller is getting ripped off or not.
Lag polluted area of retainers.
Backwards to selling and buying and waste of time in an all around concept. It's like saying Let's make productive cars slower instead of faster.
Without proper supply and demand of a Auction house, people can instantly put up a retainer selling an item lower/higher price that ruins another person in a competitive matter.

Please excuse my typing, haven't had my coffee yet

[Starplayer]

I didn't flame anyone or call names, nothing like that. Just stated the facts, facts that I've been saying since day one, facts that the dev team seems to have acknowledged as well.

The whole AH argument has been made time and time again since this games release and the simple fact is that the wards do (almost) everything an AH could do, you just need to walk to a retainer to pick up your items instead of buying from a menu.

Forget about it, I don't care to argue about any subject on these boards let alone this.

This is your opinion, and that's okay - it's why we're here. It doesn't, however, make it right. The overwhelming majority of AH supporters say that we simply need more convenience. I don't mind that you're okay with the way it is, just understand that a lot of us are not.

I could care less if we get an AH or not, I just want something that works similarly without all the inconvenience.

It doesn't matter at this point though because it's true that this live letter was not meant to address things beyond 1.19, so let's move on.

[syntaxlies]

I didn't flame anyone or call names, nothing like that. Just stated the facts, facts that I've been saying since day one, facts that the dev team seems to have acknowledged as well.

The whole AH argument has been made time and time again since this games release and the simple fact is that the wards do (almost) everything an AH could do, you just need to walk to a retainer to pick up your items instead of buying from a menu.

they need to either make uldahs wards bigger and eliminate grid and LL's or link them. No one uses them except botters looking for privacy.

[Starplayer]

Don't bother. I quoted the information from lodestone only to be told my emotions were getting in the way... /sadpanda.

Yes, I said that because you were blatantly rude for no reason. If you find yourself getting that upset over something an anonymous person says on a message board, take a step back and compose yourself before writing a response.

[Molly_Millions]

Forget about it, I don't care to argue about any subject on these boards let alone this.

This is your opinion, and that's okay - it's why we're here. It doesn't, however, make it right. The overwhelming majority of AH supporters say that we simply need more convenience. I don't mind that you're okay with the way it is, just understand that a lot of us are not.

I could care less if we get an AH or not, I just want something that works similarly without all the inconvenience.

It doesn't matter at this point though because it's true that this live letter was not meant to address things beyond 1.19, so let's move on.

I'll drop it after this, if it's convenience you want, there is no reason that the wards can't be made more convenient. Therefore we don't NEED an AH we need a few adjustments to the MW.

[TheVedis]

Just the fact that there are constant wars on these boards about this exact topic should tell the devs that it's not an issue that should get pushed aside.

whats funny is most of the posts in these "Wars" are by the same 5-6 people who just dont know how to shut up and have to counter argue every single person who doesnt agree with their AH views(granted it goes both ways)

half the AH threads are 10-15 users making a 500+ post thread with a few random(and extremely flamed) people posting in between

[Starplayer]

I'll drop it after this, if it's convenience you want, there is no reason that the wards can't be made more convenient. Therefore we don't NEED an AH we need a few adjustments to the MW.

Agreed, hence my post where I said I could care less about whether or not we get an AH as long as the convenience is there.

[TheVedis]

Agreed, hence my post where I said I could care less about whether or not we get an AH as long as the convenience is there.

and every improvement they have made has been along these lines
its just not as much a priority right now as lets say...content and combat

[Eekiki]

A poll can be a misconception or lied. There are ways to manipulate a poll vote. Here's let me make it child friendly for you to understand

--bunch of misinformation edited out--

Everything you say about an AH is either already in the wards, will be added to the wards after 1.20, or could easily be added to the wards current functionality. We do not need an AH.

Thanks for being once again being insulting to those who disagree with you, Foulu.

[Molly_Millions]

they need to either make uldahs wards bigger and eliminate grid and LL's or link them. No one uses them except botters looking for privacy.

Getting rid of the places they bot won't get rid of botters. As long as there is a desire for high ranked classes, crafted items, gathered items, etc., and people who know how to create a program for botting, plus the desire to use that knowledge, there will be bots.