Why do people want Blue Mage in this game?

[Luciano_Bozzelli]

I'm a big fan of the blue mage. FFXI 75 blu eventually went to 99, but hey... nostalgia aside. In my opinion, if they make it to where you can learn lots of blu spells, (or gain lots of blue spells by either leveling up and learning them from your master, or letting you get a move from other means) along with having a defense, melee, and magical stances you can change like cleric stance, and!! Allow lots of blues to be different due to us having 100's of spell moves, but only allowing you to use 20...


I would be happy. And they have to let us have a new weapon, dual wield swords. No matter what they do after this I would be fine I guess. But doesn't that sound cool though? To where you are a good dd, but can be that man that if the party losses a tank, you could switch to tank stance and hold a mob for a lil bit, or fight a mob weak to magic and come with your blue mage magic spells equipped? But who knows. Long as he has the blu shoes, and a veil over his face, and looks bad ass like a ninja looking man, I'm all for it lol

[MagiusNecros]

Does this game have reflect yet? Because that could be a shield oath type spell for the Blue Mage

Doubt we'll get Magic reflects anytime soon. FF tradition had Carbuncle use Ruby Light to cast reflect on the party to reflect magic spells back at an enemy. Both attack and healing magic and we have all these heal checks it wouldn't work.

Plus the only form of it working will be basically it counters magic damage in lieu of the Warrior's Vengeance.

It's kinda sad that other games have systems specifically designed to reflect magical attacks such as standard FF games and even Xenoblade X. Hell you can even use a ability to have a spike damage aura that deals damage just by being in proximity to the enemy. Lots of cool stuff. It's a shame however most if not all mechanics in XIV are limited and scripted to a tee. I know I always had fun finding new strategies and ways to optimize a character.

[ADVSS]

This YouTube/reddit tier response again you see everywhere.
No shit, ofcourse I wont be playing it, doesn't mean I'm not going to comment on it.



Does this game have reflect yet? Because that could be a shield oath type spell for the Blue Mage

its called vengeance a magic damage version wouldnt really work for anyrthing but pvp CURRENTLY but they can def make it work dont you agree?

ecamples for how itd work , is like clemency when another person is healed you get a portion back, this is, assuming were going the tank route, where if you were healed the rest would be dispersed to the party?)im guessing)while when you take damage its met with a 50 potency attack magic or not? I mean im trying to make te concept easy in relation to what does exist already....

[Yasuhiro]

Doubt we'll get Magic reflects anytime soon. FF tradition had Carbuncle use Ruby Light to cast reflect on the party to reflect magic spells back at an enemy.

That's kinda what I had in mind, could be like a permanent unleashed where an enemy hits you it just reflects back for minor damage hitting the enemies back. Mostly got the idea from how it works in Kingdom Hearts II where any attack bounces back at the enemy when cast, the tank would still need to take damage ofcourse otherwise they'd be One Punch Man mode all the time. I'm not very good at coming up with ideas in this game though, I still don't really know how most things work in XIV since the game changes its rules and doesn't know if it wants to follow tradition or be its own thing.

its called vengeance a magic damage version wouldnt really work for anyrthing but pvp CURRENTLY but they can def make it work dont you agree?

Not heard of that skill is it a Warrior skill? Only tank class I've not really played. Sounds like a skill a Warrior would have.

[Morningstar1337]

Not heard of that skill is it a Warrior skill? Only tank class I've not really played. Sounds like a skill a Warrior would have.

Yes, Vengance is a Warrior skill

[ADVSS]

it is it also comes with a mmitigation buff but yes it exists
it could apply to the the tank stance, as yu mentond as a passive buff to loering damage by x%. I evcen considered 'Learn' being a coodldown that utilizes shade shift or magic wall, giving x amount of damage absortion to the next monster skill and having another action 'retort' allow you to use that aoe on a cd to retaliate the skill/conalaoe/badbreath

[Yuni_Queen]

yay!

I think this is first guy in this thread, that actually wants Blue Mage, regardless if it's gonna be tank or not.
Like for this sir.

People like you restores my hopes in legit FF community.

[Yasuhiro]

Had a thought and it might be a bit too far fetched and extreme but hear me out
Why can't the Blue Mage be like the Arcanist and how you can branch out to either be a Summoner or a Scholar? and you can have 3 types of job crystals for the blue mage depending on what you want to do. All jobs have their own story quest lines though so never thought about how that would work when you come back to NPC at level 45 and say "okay, I wanna be a DPS blue mage now, can we start over?"

On another note, little idea for how one particular spell can work, missile can be the Blue Mage's (Tank) shield lob spell.

[Yuni_Queen]

Why can't the Blue Mage be like the Arcanist and how you can branch out to either be a Summoner or a Scholar?

It can. I made a feedback some time ago with such idea, regarding Samurai, since all these people wanted to see sam as dps.
No response, so i suppose it is simply the matter of fact, that they already have classes prepared, or woudnt like to break the Roles balance by giving one additonal role outside of standard expansion set +1,1,1

[MagiusNecros]

Had a thought and it might be a bit too far fetched and extreme but hear me out
Why can't the Blue Mage be like the Arcanist and how you can branch out to either be a Summoner or a Scholar? and you can have 3 types of job crystals for the blue mage depending on what you want to do. All jobs have their own story quest lines though so never thought about how that would work when you come back to NPC at level 45 and say "okay, I wanna be a DPS blue mage now, can we start over?"

On another note, little idea for how one particular spell can work, missile can be the Blue Mage's (Tank) shield lob spell.

Multi missile always hit multiple enemies so you already neutered it.

Devs also said SMN/SCH branch was a mistake.

The 3 job crystal branches could work but then all the other classes will want that as well.